Ponder or Preordain?

[Shivix]

What do you guys prefer? {Ponder} or {Preordain}?

Personally I prefer Preordain because Ponder only really changes the order you draw the cards and I feel your more restricted.

[cltrn81]

Preordain fo shizzle

[Grexis]

Ponder because of the shuffle

[BlackJester]

To me these cards are equivalent 80% of the time.

[Rass]

To me these cards are equivalent 80% of the time.

Lol can I see you spread sheets where you come up with thes number

[BlackJester]

To me these cards are equivalent 80% of the time.

Lol can I see you spread sheets where you come up with thes number

I wouldn't want to bore you with the details. 😜

[Queezle]

Ponder because of the shuffle

I agree

[BlackJester]

Okay, so one main difference is that {Ponder} is all-or-nothing. Either you keep all three or shuffle up. If you didn't like them and shuffle, there is a chance you could draw an unwanted card anyway. With {Preordain} you can keep two, one, or none. If you didnt like either of the cards you can bury them an have a 0% chance of drawing them them for some time.
{Preordain} can work with {Cellar Door}, {Ponder} will have you take damage from {Psychogenic Probe}. If your deck is already randomized, putting the top two on the on bottom leaves the rest in random order anyway.
{Ponder} let's you look one card deeper, so if you are digging for combo pieces it's slightly better.

[Rass]

To me these cards are equivalent 80% of the time.

Lol can I see you spread sheets where you come up with thes number

I wouldn't want to bore you with the details. 😜

Lol nice move

[cltrn81]

To be able to look at 2 cards and put them on the bottom of your library if they are not what you are looking for is much better than looking at and reordering 3 cards that must stay on top.  Preordain wins hands down IMHO.

[BlackJester]

To be able to look at 2 cards and put them on the bottom of your library if they are not what you are looking for is much better than looking at and reordering 3 cards that must stay on top.  Preordain wins hands down IMHO.

Well, they don't have to stay on top.  You could shuffle.

[Prophylaxis]

I like {Ponder}, but that may be just because I've played with it more

[Spikepit]

Okay, so one main difference is that {Ponder} is all-or-nothing. Either you keep all three or shuffle up. If you didn't like them and shuffle, there is a chance you could draw an unwanted card anyway. With {Preordain} you can keep two, one, or none. If you didnt like either of the cards you can bury them an have a 0% chance of drawing them them for some time.
{Preordain} can work with {Cellar Door}, {Ponder} will have you take damage from {Psychogenic Probe}. If your deck is already randomized, putting the top two on the on bottom leaves the rest in random order anyway.
{Ponder} let's you look one card deeper, so if you are digging for combo pieces it's slightly better.

I'll just lock the comments closed there, shall I? Nothing else needs to be said ... No? ... Dindt think so. 😜