Phantasmal Image

[prayos]

{Phantasmal Image}

Why does it get to copy the CMC as well?  Saw someone copy {Thragtusk} and then {Birthing Pod} the image for a {Sun Titan}.  i call shenanigans.  It copies the creature, but not the card, and should still have a CMC of 2.

[adventus]

{Phantasmal Image}

Why does it get to copy the CMC as well?

It doesn't.  The CMC continues to be 2.

[scarsabrex]

it does, cmc is a copiable characteristic.

[Kaleo42]

Clones become copies of the card, but the only thing it cant copy is both sides of a card. For example an imaged {huntmaster of the fells} cant flip over into a ravenger. So yes, image copies the cmc

[BlackJester]

List of copiable characteristics (Comp Rules 706.2):
-Name
-Mana cost
-Power
-Toughness
-Color
-Type, subtype, supertype
-Expansion Symbol (yes, it matters)
-Rules Text
-Loyalty

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[scarsabrex]

wait how does expansions symbols work with reprints?

[Coffee Vampire]

Whatever expension symbol on the card is copied, and only that; copying a {Birds of Paradise} would't give your copied birds very symbol for each time it got reprinted

For instance:

If you use {Apocalypse Chime}, cards that are in homelands yet do not have the homelands symbol because it is a reprinted version will be safe.

[Fenster]

What about the commander copy i have of {Vampire nighthawk}?

[prayos]

List of copiable characteristics (Comp Rules 706.2):
-Name
-Mana cost
-Power
-Toughness
-Color
-Type, subtype, supertype
-Expansion Symbol (yes, it matters)
-Rules Text
-Loyalty

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If its copying the card, i could understand copying the cmc.  But copying the creature, thats different.  In a game all about semantics, im surprised this distinction doesnt exist.

[Double-O-Scotch]

So would a copied homelands card get toasted by {apocalypse chime}?

[Kaleo42]

List of copiable characteristics (Comp Rules 706.2):
-Name
-Mana cost
-Power
-Toughness
-Color
-Type, subtype, supertype
-Expansion Symbol (yes, it matters)
-Rules Text
-Loyalty

✋🔨⏰

If its copying the card, i could understand copying the cmc.  But copying the creature, thats different.  In a game all about semantics, im surprised this distinction doesnt exist.

The word creature is a distinction of what it's copying, it cant say card because tokens arent cards. A lot of these minor confusions stem from rulings on overlooked interactions and specifics by R&D

[BlackJester]

Simply because if it's on the battlefield it's considered a creature. If it's anywhere else (hand, graveyard, library) it's considered a creature card.

See {Disentomb} for "creature card".