Oblivion Ring, Bounce, The Stack

[Birdbrain]

If you can't bounce creatures while on the stack. You can't bounce oblivion ring while on the stack. Otherwise you have a double standerd. If you can bounce one type of permanent, you should be able to bounce another. So you can {cyclonic rift} your own oblivion ring, but can't {cyclonic rift} your own creature? Why don't I just make up a rule that certain spells copy as they resolve. it's a big steaming pile of bull (you know what) is what it is

[Keyeto]

If you can't bounce creatures while on the stack. You can't bounce oblivion ring while on the stack. Otherwise you have a double standerd. If you can bounce one type of permanent, you should be able to bounce another. So you can {cyclonic rift} your own oblivion ring, but can't {cyclonic rift} your own creature? Why don't I just make up a rule that certain spells copy as they resolve. it's a big steaming pile of bull (you know what) is what it is

You don't bounce o-ring while its on the stack. You bounce it once its on the battlefield, but before the etb trigger resolves. It is on the battlefield when it is bounced.

[Birdbrain]

If you can't bounce creatures while on the stack. You can't bounce oblivion ring while on the stack. Otherwise you have a double standerd. If you can bounce one type of permanent, you should be able to bounce another. So you can {cyclonic rift} your own oblivion ring, but can't {cyclonic rift} your own creature? Why don't I just make up a rule that certain spells copy as they resolve. it's a big steaming pile of bull (you know what) is what it is

You don't bounce o-ring while its on the stack. You bounce it once its on the battlefield, but before the etb trigger resolves. It is on the battlefield when it is bounced.

Could you do this trick with a creature with a positive effect when it enters, and a negitive effect when it leaves?

[Birdbrain]

Ok then. I was just wanting to be absolutely certain there was consistency with this. If not, then it wouldn't make any sense that it could happen

[Jroch314]

This has been an absolutely insane thread lol. Oh and btw this:

Imagine a TV remote with an "off" button and an "on" button. You can only hit each button once.

You pick up the remote (O-Ring enters the battlefield)

As your finger heads towards the "on" button (Exile trigger put on stack), your roommate (Cloudshift put on stack and resolved) quickly reaches over (Return to Play trigger put on stack) and presses the "off" button (Return to Play trigger resolves).

The TV was already off, so nothing happens.

Your finger finally hits the "on" button (Exile trigger resolves) and the TV turns on (Permant is exiled).

Since both buttons have been pressed and the remote is now useless (O-Ring is no longer in play), the TV will be on forever.

👍 Awesome. +1 for testset.

[Quisequise]

I actually understand this entire o-ring scenario. Now I just wanna look through my deck and figure our more ways to manipulate the stack.

[Birdbrain]

The more you know, the more tools you have. I'm going to get aquatinted with the extensive rules so I can be more flexible with in flexible decks like rebels. That was a nightmare when my friends had figured out how to consistently take my deck down...

[AbishotRed]

Thanks for explaining the mechanics to me everyone, I can now enjoy learning now to exploit game mechanics

[Jroch314]

I would say manipulating the stack to better suit yourself is a staple in any good players regiment. It can only make you better.