vorel ftw?

[DylanW18]

In addition, when he reverts back, it doubles the Loyalty counters as well

[Almosteric]

{Gideon champion of justice}

So no drop and whack?
And what was that about doubled loyalty?

nope no wham bam thank you.... you get it...   i think he was talking about if you zero him then vorel  the counters would double when he went back to walker form. 
it actually frustrates me that GId cant attack first turn.  all other PW abilities can be used so why not that one?  muph.....

[Almosteric]

And just a thought, but if it looks like they are gonna womp your {Gideon champion of justice} with a large attack, can you pop him into beast mode and dodge it?

pretty sure you answered this question a while back  haha  sorcery speed my friend. 

[Flashley_ska]

How about {nimbus swimmer}?
1 - Forest, dork.
2 - island, vorel.
3 - island, swimmer as a 2/2.
4 - forest, vorel the swimmer, untap him, repeat. swing with 8/8 flier.