You know your screwed when...

[Johng4490]

Hmm, I need to start sleeping more...

[smokin terry]

Chaos reigns deck, modified. {Maelstrom Wanderer} cascades into {Infinite Reflections}. Endless cascades until nothing in deck but land.

Wouldn't they enter the battlefield as legendaries and kill each other?

Yes and you would not cascade on the copies because you are not casting them. Once they enter the battlefield they become copies not when you cast them.

[tsul25]

Chaos reigns deck, modified. {Maelstrom Wanderer} cascades into {Infinite Reflections}. Endless cascades until nothing in deck but land.

Wouldn't they enter the battlefield as legendaries and kill each other?

I believe so. And I don't think the cascades would be infinite because even when the other creatures become copies you're not actually casting them.

[tsul25]

And I was beaten to it... Guess I type too slow lol

[smokin terry]

And I was beaten to it... Guess I type too slow lol

Just by a second.

[Johng4490]

The cascades would work, cause your casting without paying its mana cost. Legend rule sticks though.

[tsul25]

The cascades would work, cause your casting without paying its mana cost. Legend rule sticks though.

You're not casting it though. When you first play infinite reflections all your creatures become wanders, but you never cast any of them so the cascade doesn't trigger. When you play another creature it will enter the battlefield as a wander, but the cascade effect isn't an ETB effect. It only triggers when the spell is cast, and you're not actually casting that spell.

[cltrn81]

When you are playing manaless dredge and your opponent has {Trepedation Blade}

How does this screw you?  It would help you a lot actually.....that is if you are playing it right

[cltrn81]

The cascades would work, cause your casting without paying its mana cost. Legend rule sticks though.

You're not casting it though. When you first play infinite reflections all your creatures become wanders, but you never cast any of them so the cascade doesn't trigger. When you play another creature it will enter the battlefield as a wander, but the cascade effect isn't an ETB effect. It only triggers when the spell is cast, and you're not actually casting that spell.

To clarify that last point.  If you cast a creature that enters the BF as a copy of another, regardless if it is a copy from {infinite reflections} or a creature like {phantasmal image}, it will trigger ETB triggers if the copy has an ETB trigger. 

So if you have the wanderer with {infinite reflections} attached and no other creatureson the BF .... when you cast another creature it will enter the BF as a copy of wanderer .... this will trigger the double cascade ETB but the legend rule will destroy both wanderers.

[Gorzo]

When you are playing manaless dredge and your opponent has {Trepedation Blade}

How does this screw you?  It would help you a lot actually.....that is if you are playing it right

Manaless dredge..so the deck has no land. Trep blade mills whole deck, equipped creature swings for +50~ish. Sure, you get to dredge to replace draws which should save you from mill-out death, but that swing is gonna hurt hope it doesn't have trample!

[cltrn81]

Ohh yea, forgot trep blade works with lands.  I was thinking more along the lines of a mill strategy against dredge.  *facepalm*

[BlackJester]

To clarify that last point.  If you cast a creature that enters the BF as a copy of another, regardless if it is a copy from {infinite reflections} or a creature like {phantasmal image}, it will trigger ETB triggers if the copy has an ETB trigger. 

So if you have the wanderer with {infinite reflections} attached and no other creatureson the BF .... when you cast another creature it will enter the BF as a copy of wanderer .... this will trigger the double cascade ETB but the legend rule will destroy both wanderers.

Except, Cascade isn't an ETB ability.  Otherwise, how could it be on {Bituminous Blast}.    It only triggers when you cast it.