Group Hate

[Thorn]

Group Hate 60 cards, 1 sideboard 1 {Netherborn Phalanx} 1 {Sangromancer} 1 {Invader Parasite} 1 {Shriekmaw} 1 {Chancellor of the Dross} 1 {Mudbutton Torchrunner} 1 {Geth, Lord of the Vault} 1 {Tunnel Ignus} 1 {Lightning Reaver} 1 {Malfegor} 1 {Manaforge Cinder} 1 {Rakdos Ickspitter} 1 {Kulrath Knight} 1 {Wall of Bone} 1 {Reassembling Skeleton} 1 {Kulrath Knight} 1 {Wall of Fire} 1 {Blood Cultist} 1 {Deathbringer Thoctar} 1 {Thunder Dragon} 1 {Blood Artist} 1 {Falkenrath Noble} 22 creatures 1 {War's Toll} 1 {Nihilistic Glee} 1 {Ashling's Prerogative} 1 {Exsanguinate} 1 {Painful Quandary} 1 {Twinstrike} 1 {Go for the Throat} 1 {Polluted Bonds} 1 {Doom Blade} 1 {Undying Evil} 1 {Rain of Gore} 1 {Scar} 1 {Uphill Battle} 1 {Blood Reckoning} 1 {Bonehoard} 1 {Murder} 1 {Blasphemous Act} 1 {Breath of Malfegor} 1 {Everlasting Torment} 1 {Chain Reaction} 1 {Blightning} 1 {Mutilate} 1 {Red Sun's Zenith} 1 {Smother} 1 {Exquisite Blood} 1 {Curse of Death's Hold} 1 {No Mercy} 1 {Syphon Flesh} 1 {Geth's Verdict} 1 {Pain Magnification} 1 {Terminate} 1 {Tragic Slip} 1 {Ghostly Flame} 1 {Dismember} 1 {Phyrexian Purge} 1 {Bituminous Blast} 1 {Blood Tithe} 37 other spells Sideboard 1 {Kaervek the Merciless} 1 sideboard cards

[Thorn]

Didn't add lands yet...
Oppinions please?

[AgrusKos]

Most commander decks have 43-44 lands and you only have room for 40

[Thorn]

Yeah I know. I always seem to draw to many mana so I cut a few.

[Gorzo]

{mountain}, {swamp}...

There are so many options for land... Apart from the dual-color mana fixers, like {Dragonskull Summit} and the Ravnica bounce land, there's a lot to sift through. There are also staples like {command tower} and {rupture spire}. {Reliquary tower} if you have a lot of card draw.

I like the Lorwyn "Hideaway" lands in commander. There's one for each color, each with its own unique trigger. I don't remember any names other than the red one, {Spinerock Knoll}, but look up hideaway under text to look at the others. They are fun.

There is a set of old lands like {Dormant Volcano} that are good in commander too, that give you extra mana at the cost of bouncing a basic.

And it's good to look for old lands that have the same effect as a basic land with a minor alternate benefit, like {Hammerheim} or {Moonring Island} - doesn't enter tapped, makes mana as normal, and gives you a little effect option for shiggles.

[AgrusKos]

Good idea. Do some playtests and work out the kinks

[Thorn]

I have been testing. So far I have removed {Undying Evil} for {Blood Seeker}

[AgrusKos]

I have been testing. So far I have removed {Undying Evil} for {Blood Seeker}

Good idea. Has the mana been working out?

[Thorn]

Yeah I'm using all of the super expensive dual lands (proxy) and a {Dragonskull Sumit} (real)   
So far its really fun. My fav card in the deck is {No Mercy}. That card just stops my opponents dead in their tracks.

[Karrthus]

I would go with just 40 lands, I normally run about 38 in an EDH, unless I have mana pumpers or ramp. Then it's about 35.

[Thorn]

I would go with just 40 lands, I normally run about 38 in an EDH, unless I have mana pumpers or ramp. Then it's about 35.

Yeah same for me.

[Karrthus]

This looks like a fairly cheap deck, do you mind I I build it and try it out. Seems kind of fun.

[Thorn]

This looks like a fairly cheap deck, do you mind I I build it and try it out. Seems kind of fun.

Sure go for it!
I made it cheap on purpose so I could afford it. ;P
Anyway, give it a go but please tell me how it did.

[Thorn]

How did it do?
And if anyone ha any more ideas please share.