Make a real deck people

Started by Kaziklu, July 05, 2012, 04:41:31 AM

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Kaziklu

I understand that people just want to make fun time fnm decks sometimes. I just don't think publicly announcing them should be warranted. I know there is no fun deck consensus for some people because they are really trying to make an original deck. Well I applaud your creativity but you've got to live in reality a bit. There's only about 240 cards in the upcoming set m13 and i dont count many  cards that are worth playing for tournament play.

You've go to apply what you think you currently know About standard (or whatever format, but mostly this one) to what this meta game is and try to predict what may come of it. That's magic. Every time you go to a big tournament the meta game evolves to its surroundings. Whether it be regionals, states, scg trials, ptq trials  etc etc. you have Ito adapt to what you think will happen. So get out others and ascertain a knowledge of what people are playing!

Trevor


Kaziklu

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Sorry for posting so pessemistically, asversely, and downheartdly to say the least. I also posted too early. I just think people don't do their research before they post with a select few to be exempt. Because everyone makes mistakes now and then.

Also sorry for typos. The iPhone s quite unforgiving for not being literal.


BoyMac

Welcome to the internet friend! This is a place where people can post and say whatever they want freely. Feel free to browse the forum and view our topics or simply ignore the ones that don't interest you. If you don't like something, ignore it.

smokin terry

Just because some people don't want to net deck the tier one decks. That everyone sees on a weekly basis multiple times over, does not mean their decks do not work. I have made 4 color control that stomped the tier ones same for my old naya titans last rotation, esper walkers and a blue green that surpised some of the best players at my shop. I prosonily like seeing more decks on here other then just 40 copies of the same 3 decks with only two-six card differances if you think someone's deck need help then throw out suggestions. That is how people learn. Now go back to your mageblade/wolf run ramp or what ever tier one you must run.

Dudecore

Well I am of the belief that Standard forum is for posting competitive decks. And casual is more for home brew, kitchen table stuff.

Not that everything posted in this aren't competitive, but some things really aren't. But if they fill the Standard requirement, more power to em.

Brandalog

Quote from: smokin terry on July 05, 2012, 09:38:19 AM
Just because some people don't want to net deck the tier one decks. That everyone sees on a weekly basis multiple times over, does not mean their decks do not work. I have made 4 color control that stomped the tier ones same for my old naya titans last rotation, esper walkers and a blue green that surpised some of the best players at my shop. I prosonily like seeing more decks on here other then just 40 copies of the same 3 decks with only two-six card differances if you think someone's deck need help then throw out suggestions. That is how people learn. Now go back to your mageblade/wolf run ramp or what ever tier one you must run.

Very well said.

Kaziklu

Quote from: Dudecore on July 05, 2012, 11:38:46 AM
Well I am of the belief that Standard forum is for posting competitive decks. And casual is more for home brew, kitchen table stuff.

Not that everything posted in this aren't competitive, but some things really aren't. But if they fill the Standard requirement, more power to em.

That's more or less what I was trying to convey.

smokin terry

I'm sorry that people like my self can't make a fun competitive deck. I guess this forum section should be filled with nothing but the same 3 to maybe 4 deck build and everyone telling them to put the same cards in. I my self don't like reading the same cereal box every morning it block the flow of ideas.

Kaziklu

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Quote from: smokin terry on July 05, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
I'm sorry that people like my self can't make a fun competitive deck. I guess this forum section should be filled with nothing but the same 3 to maybe 4 deck build and everyone telling them to put the same cards in. I my self don't like reading the same cereal box every morning it block the flow of ideas.

And I agree. Some of these guys do have some great ideasfore fun rogue decks. It just seems like they are often my underdeveloped before they post about it on a forum. And that's not just on this forum either.

JaCe BeLeReN

Why do we play magic? Because its fun and thrilling to try to win, or to just play. Why do we play standard? Because it is a more competitive style AND because some people enjoy the challenge of a limited card base. Don't hate on decks just because they arn't winning machines. Enjoy the ingenuity and provide friendly support with deck were you see flaws. That's my opinion.
/soapbox

Greg54js

Quote from: Kaziklu on July 05, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: smokin terry on July 05, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
I'm sorry that people like my self can't make a fun competitive deck. I guess this forum section should be filled with nothing but the same 3 to maybe 4 deck build and everyone telling them to put the same cards in. I my self don't like reading the same cereal box every morning it block the flow of ideas.

And I agree. Some of these guys do have some great ideasfore fun rogue decks. It just seems like they are often my underdeveloped before they post about it on a forum. And that's not just on this forum either.
Okay hang on. These forums and others are for the purpose of making decks better and more competitive. I myself don't have a team of magic players to sit for hours and build and test. These forums are my group and each member a teammate. It's a community for a reason. We help each other to make our ideas more focused and competitive. If you can't handle that or ignore the people who do it, then why are you here?

Kaleo42

I feel like some things are being over looked. Im fairly new at this forum, but i get a sense that this forum is intended for what you will take to fnm or how to take a jank idea and make it worth fnm. I have posted winning decks that are not even close to the general top teir and recieved little to know feed back or questions about the decks. It seems if the deck already wins then people feel no need to make it better (or worse not figure out why it wins). Most of the players on here are either short budget or short collection (im short budget, but my collection is pooled with two others and through smart trades i can build anythig without swords). They need to know how to make their what seems kitchen table deck into a good fnm without breaking the bank.
If this is a real problem for more than one person, maybe we need a code tag for competitive threads that will hint top players that this thread is worth their time.

smokin terry

Quote from: Kaziklu on July 05, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: smokin terry on July 05, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
I'm sorry that people like my self can't make a fun competitive deck. I guess this forum section should be filled with nothing but the same 3 to maybe 4 deck build and everyone telling them to put the same cards in. I my self don't like reading the same cereal box every morning it block the flow of ideas.

And I agree. Some of these guys do have some great ideasfore fun rogue decks. It just seems like they are often my underdeveloped before they post about it on a forum. And that's not just on this forum either.
I understand that. A lot of people do not know how to make a great competitive deck because they may not be developed deck builders which will constrict the stability of a deck. One of the most constricting thing in building decks is the ability of making a almost perfect land base. After shards people stopped making +3 color decks and that stopped new ideas and combos from being found. I for one can't play a deck with less than three colors anymore. I've seen a lot of decks on here that is the main problem is land base. Or the obvious lack of the need cards or money to get them. But I see a lot of people change their deck to the suggestions that people give. I also don't see a lot of suggestions.

smokin terry

Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 05, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
If this is a real problem for more than one person, maybe we need a code tag for competitive threads that will hint top players that this thread is worth their time.
I think that is a good idea. I have seen many decks not commented on because it is hard to tell if it is for competitive or mainly fun. So suggestions are hard to give.