Stealing creatures

Started by Deathstorm, June 27, 2012, 04:21:22 PM

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BlackJester


scarsabrex

million deleted a post saying your combo didn't work

Bilygote

Quote from: Deathstorm on June 27, 2012, 04:51:18 PM
Any ideas how to steal all the creatures at once

{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}

scarsabrex


BlackJester

Quote from: Bilygote on June 28, 2012, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: Deathstorm on June 27, 2012, 04:51:18 PM
Any ideas how to steal all the creatures at once

{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}
+ {Radiate} + {Cloudshift}

Aladormax

Or {sudden dissaperence}

BlackJester

Quote from: Aladormax on June 28, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
Or {sudden dissaperence}
Again no.  Sudden Disappearance says:
Quote from: BlackJester on June 27, 2012, 04:40:20 PM
Exile all nonland permanents target player controls. Return the exiled cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.

scarsabrex

i likr how we've already covered why sudden dissapearance doesn't work.

BlackJester

Quote from: scarsabrex on June 28, 2012, 01:28:49 PM
i likr how we've already covered why sudden dissapearance doesn't work.
IKR?   ::)  And don't even think about {Ghostway} either.  Same deal.

Xanzurth

Ok so I'm a little confused. My understanding of {sundial of the infinite} is that end of turn effects nvr happen. So why won't the orginal combo work?

scarsabrex

reminder text includes "this turn and end of turn effects end".

it's not the turn stipulation that is ended it is the actual effect. take {giant growth}. if you use sundial of the infinite the buff will end. same with temporary control effects. they will end because they end at the end of turn and you are ending the turn eith sundial of the infinite.

BlackJester

Right. The trick with the Dial is to look for "At the beginning of next end step [ DO THIS ]." This is a triggered ability, which, if you wait til it goes on the stack, will go ๐Ÿ’จpoof๐Ÿ’จ with the dial.

If you Dial before the trigger, it'll just come around *next* end step. (your opponent's).

Xanzurth

Ah I see ok so now I see why Jester is always harping on timing.

Wackaman9001

So {sudden disappearance} and {sundial of the infinite} would permanently exile your opponents creatures, no? Provided you have proper timing

BlackJester

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on July 01, 2012, 03:02:01 PM
So {sudden disappearance} and {sundial of the infinite} would permanently exile your opponents creatures, no? Provided you have proper timing
Yessiree, Bob!๐Ÿ‘