Mafia Day 2 Time to lynch!

Started by Milo109, June 08, 2012, 07:01:10 PM

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scarsabrex

no the mafia can both lynch people durin the day and off them through pm at night.

Sagemaster

Oh okay darn! Thought I was in to something haha

Milo109

Quote from: Sagemaster on June 14, 2012, 09:55:10 PM
Oh okay darn! Thought I was in to something haha
It's not that easy

Sagemaster

Quote from: Milo109 on June 14, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 14, 2012, 09:55:10 PM
Oh okay darn! Thought I was in to something haha
It's not that easy
It was worth a thought 😜
But I'm just gonna vote randomly then and the die rolled 2 sooo guypocalypse

Coffee Vampire

*sigh*...the luck of the Irish. Not so lucky I guess.

Now that we have one death, there may be motives to be found out.

Firstly, who did he accuse? He accused darkarts at the start for no reason. Then he accused me because I appeared suspicious (which, I'll admit; I am kind of suspicious). Killing off people that accuse you would seem logical as a mafia.

But let's assume that I am a mafia member for now. I see badluckirish accusing me. Should I kill him? Well let's look at my options:

I could kill him, but he was the fifth one to vote for me. So why would I kill him? It would make more sense to kill someone who had more arguments against me, like CbStrad. Or maybe someone more in the middle ground to make it seem less obvious. But badluckirish? He was just the fifth vote on the large pile. No reason really to kill him if I was a mafia.

However, let us say now that I am not a mafia member. Why would badluckirish die? Well some mafia could be trying to frame me, since badluckirish did vote for me. I mean, if the mafia really wanted to remain hidden, don't you think they would just kill someone who hasn't talked yet? But no; they chose someone who has talked. And the only thing he said with a reason was to vote for me to be lynched.

But whatever the case, we need to put our thinking caps on! I have thought about some things, and I no longer suspect CbStrad or sagemaster or ntheawesome. I realize I was basing my whole argument on what might be pure chance. They are still suspects, of course. But not any more than anyone else; including me.

I do, however, have newfound suspitions for proph. Requesting doctor assistance just seems a little...off. Just think about it: what better way is there to prevent the doctor from helping whoever you are going to kill than to make the doctor help you? It is a smart thing to do, because it isn't too obvious at first glance. But it has not slipped under my radar. I suspect proph a little more now.

Prophylaxis

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 14, 2012, 10:08:33 PM
*sigh*...the luck of the Irish. Not so lucky I guess.

Now that we have one death, there may be motives to be found out.

Firstly, who did he accuse? He accused darkarts at the start for no reason. Then he accused me because I appeared suspicious (which, I'll admit; I am kind of suspicious). Killing off people that accuse you would seem logical as a mafia.

But let's assume that I am a mafia member for now. I see badluckirish accusing me. Should I kill him? Well let's look at my options:

I could kill him, but he was the fifth one to vote for me. So why would I kill him? It would make more sense to kill someone who had more arguments against me, like CbStrad. Or maybe someone more in the middle ground to make it seem less obvious. But badluckirish? He was just the fifth vote on the large pile. No reason really to kill him if I was a mafia.

However, let us say now that I am not a mafia member. Why would badluckirish die? Well some mafia could be trying to frame me, since badluckirish did vote for me. I mean, if the mafia really wanted to remain hidden, don't you think they would just kill someone who hasn't talked yet? But no; they chose someone who has talked. And the only thing he said with a reason was to vote for me to be lynched.

But whatever the case, we need to put our thinking caps on! I have thought about some things, and I no longer suspect CbStrad or sagemaster or ntheawesome. I realize I was basing my whole argument on what might be pure chance. They are still suspects, of course. But not any more than anyone else; including me.

I do, however, have newfound suspitions for proph. Requesting doctor assistance just seems a little...off. Just think about it: what better way is there to prevent the doctor from helping whoever you are going to kill than to make the doctor help you? It is a smart thing to do, because it isn't too obvious at first glance. But it has not slipped under my radar. I suspect proph a little more now.

If I did not request doc protection then I would be gone now. The mafia would obviously kill the most experienced player here.

Time to complete my analysis.

Coffee Vampire

Never assume that the mafia will do something. Never say they will 100% sure do something.

We can, however, know 100% for sure what they have already done. And what did they do? They killed badluckirish. They didn't try to kill you.

If they really wanted to kill the most experienced player, then do you think a mere request of doctor help (with no response...we don't know who it is, or if te doctor even knows much about proph) would force them to choose someone different?

It isn't something to make people vote for you right off the bat, proph...but I've got my eyes on you!

Prophylaxis

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 14, 2012, 10:31:21 PM
Never assume that the mafia will do something. Never say they will 100% sure do something.

We can, however, know 100% for sure what they have already done. And what did they do? They killed badluckirish. They didn't try to kill you.

If they really wanted to kill the most experienced player, then do you think a mere request of doctor help (with no response...we don't know who it is, or if te doctor even knows much about proph) would force them to choose someone different?

It isn't something to make people vote for you right off the bat, proph...but I've got my eyes on you!

Yes, it would. In fact, doctors can affect the game even if they aren't in the game. The mere threat of a doc protect, even if a doctor doesn't exist, is enough to goad the scum elsewhere.

JaCe BeLeReN

Quote from: Prophylaxis on June 14, 2012, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 14, 2012, 10:31:21 PM
Never assume that the mafia will do something. Never say they will 100% sure do something.

We can, however, know 100% for sure what they have already done. And what did they do? They killed badluckirish. They didn't try to kill you.

If they really wanted to kill the most experienced player, then do you think a mere request of doctor help (with no response...we don't know who it is, or if te doctor even knows much about proph) would force them to choose someone different?

It isn't something to make people vote for you right off the bat, proph...but I've got my eyes on you!

Yes, it would. In fact, doctors can affect the game even if they aren't in the game. The mere threat of a doc protect, even if a doctor doesn't exist, is enough to goad the scum elsewhere.
Let's say I am the doctor. Suppose I see Proph asking for doc protection, I wouldn't do it. Ya know why? Because I would think he is the mafia. Know if he is the mafia, then this could be a double ploy, do something that makes people think he's the mafia, so people think "That's really obvious, he must not be it." because they expect the mafia to be clever. But... This may be what Proph wants you to think! He may be the mafia. I am going to say I unvote CBstrad (no hard feelings) And vote for Proph.

Coffee Vampire

True, it is enough. But it isn't always enough. In any case we should discuss the death that took place last night. We need to know two things to make progress:

1) why badluck irish?
2) why not anyone else?

Sagemaster

I think I'll hop on the hay wagon and vote proph

Prophylaxis

Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on June 14, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on June 14, 2012, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 14, 2012, 10:31:21 PM
Never assume that the mafia will do something. Never say they will 100% sure do something.

We can, however, know 100% for sure what they have already done. And what did they do? They killed badluckirish. They didn't try to kill you.

If they really wanted to kill the most experienced player, then do you think a mere request of doctor help (with no response...we don't know who it is, or if te doctor even knows much about proph) would force them to choose someone different?

It isn't something to make people vote for you right off the bat, proph...but I've got my eyes on you!

Yes, it would. In fact, doctors can affect the game even if they aren't in the game. The mere threat of a doc protect, even if a doctor doesn't exist, is enough to goad the scum elsewhere.
Let's say I am the doctor. Suppose I see Proph asking for doc protection, I wouldn't do it. Ya know why? Because I would think he is the mafia. Know if he is the mafia, then this could be a double ploy, do something that makes people think he's the mafia, so people think "That's really obvious, he must not be it." because they expect the mafia to be clever. But... This may be what Proph wants you to think! He may be the mafia. I am going to say [bold=black,2,300]I unvote CBstrad (no hard feelings) And vote for Proph.
^WIFOM. (Google it)

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 14, 2012, 11:14:10 PM
True, it is enough. But it isn't always enough. In any case we should discuss the death that took place last night. We need to know two things to make progress:

1) why badluck irish?
2) why not anyone else?

I won't go into the WIFOM of analyzing nightkills.

Quote from: Sagemaster on June 14, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
I think I'll hop on the hay wagon and vote proph
This is a terrible vote.

Vote Sagemaster

Scum don't care about who gets lynched as long as it's not them. They just want all the townies dead.

Coffee Vampire

I do question as to why sagemaster voted for proph. It seems as if he just wants to push the attention away from himself.

And I have noticed him asking a lot of questions about the mafia throughout the whole game that (I mean NO offense) could have been easily found. It may be honest, or it may be mafia tactics. I am very tempted to vote sagemaster....but first I need to compare sage and proph. And also see who else might be suspectable.

To sagemaster:

Got a reason for voting? I know that you might agree with me, but as I said, I just think proph is suspicious. If you have arrived at your own conclusion fine, but I would like to know what you think about proph.

Edit so as not to double-post:

People I am suspecting:

-Proph
-Sagemaster
-Gorzo
-darksarts

And when I say "suspecting", I don't mean "I think these people should be lynched!"...I mean that I would like to hear what you think about the current situation so I can know if you really are suspicious or not. Right now (for some people), there are just not enough posts to make any conclusions...

Sagemaster

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 15, 2012, 12:03:24 AM
I do question as to why sagemaster voted for proph. It seems as if he just wants to push the attention away from himself.

And I have noticed him asking a lot of questions about the mafia throughout the whole game that (I mean NO offense) could have been easily found. It may be honest, or it may be mafia tactics. I am very tempted to vote sagemaster....but first I need to compare sage and proph. And also see who else might be suspectable.

To sagemaster:

Got a reason for voting? I know that you might agree with me, but as I said, I just think proph is suspicious. If you have arrived at your own conclusion fine, but I would like to know what you think about proph.

Edit so as not to double-post:

People I am suspecting:

-Proph
-Sagemaster
-Gorzo
-darksarts

And when I say "suspecting", I don't mean "I think these people should be lynched!"...I mean that I would like to hear what you think about the current situation so I can know if you really are suspicious or not. Right now (for some people), there are just not enough posts to make any conclusions...
I voted proph cause by analyzing everyone he draws attention away from himself though he frequently posts and cause its the second time he's voted me haha. And where do you find the answers to my qs? I scoured the first few pages like 3 times and didn't notice answers....thanks for waiting to hear back from us though...

EDIT: I just realized he voted for me after I voted him but my reasoning still stands and I want to vote him back for voting me.

EDIT 2: checked the first page, nothing about mafia pming...

Sagemaster

Quote from: CbStrad on June 15, 2012, 01:51:56 AM
I have to agree. Sage's vote seemed a bit... hasty for the first day with an actual clue. The only reason I random'd last time was because there was nothing to go off of. But a bandwagon approach now? There's got to be something he's hiding. Please note, I'm not voting yet. Just... Curious, if you will.
Indeed it was hasty but I decided to toss my vote so I could hear others opinions.. Sadly that was the wrong decision haha. I also forgot that we cant switch votes like "yesterday.." so swapping was a big mistake on my part haha. Not hiding anything I just think proph is fooling us because he's cast suspicion away from himself almost every post by analyzing others. He's also voted for me twice now granted he switched once but I kinda wanted to vote him cause he voted me last time