Net decking

Started by Sagemaster, June 03, 2012, 03:46:35 PM

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Dudecore

Netdecking just goes along with the type of player you are. Spikes netdeck, nothing wrong with it. There is a bit of sour grapes on the side of non-netdeckers too.

Basically, everyone is playing an entertaining card game. You lose games, you win games. If you lose to a netdeck, or win because you didn't netdeck, it's still a game.

Kuberr

Quote from: Dudecore on June 03, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
Netdecking just goes along with the type of player you are. Spikes netdeck, nothing wrong with it. There is a bit of sour grapes on the side of non-netdeckers too.

Basically, everyone is playing an entertaining card game. You lose games, you win games. If you lose to a netdeck, or win because you didn't netdeck, it's still a game.

Tell that to number two at worlds.

Dudecore

Competitive MtG is different. It consists of Spikes, because spikes like winning.

Kuberr

Quote from: Dudecore on June 03, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Competitive MtG is different. It consists of Spikes, because spikes like winning.

What are these spikes you speak of?
Bist du gut?

Dudecore

Player Types
Over the history of Magic's development, the research and development at Wizards of the Coast noticed that Magic: The Gathering players could be characterized by four general stereotypes. Cards then and since have usually been designed with one of these three players in mind. References to them in casual Magic play are usually in jest, but most players do nonetheless tend to subscribe to one of the styles, or a conglomeration of the three. See also: Vorthos and Melvin.

Timmy players
The first player type to be given a name, Timmy is most associated with playing for fun, and all kinds of huge creatures, fantastic spells, and mythical enchantments. He is the most social archetype, enjoying the interaction that Magic provides. A stereotypical Timmy is usually a younger player with a simple (yet fun for him) deck. Timmy does not care whether he wins or loses, he simply wants to have fun playing really big effects. Timmies see Johnnies as too focused on certain combos and Spikes too bent on winning.

Johnny players
Johnny, the second named archetype, plays for the mental challenge that Magic presents. He likes to find interesting combinations of cards that can win the game or give him an advantage. Johnny may be a player who seeks niche cards, or cards widely reputed as bad, and tries to "break" them, exploiting them in ways to give abnormal power and win the game. He is also a combo player, sometimes choosing for elaborate but ineffective win conditions. Johnny is happiest when his decks work and he wins his way; for him, one in many leaves him happy, if that win is on his own terms. Johnnies see Timmies as simplistic and Spikes as uptight and unoriginal.

Spike players
Previously called the tournament player, Wizards R&D chose "Spike" as a name that sounded aggressive and competitive. Spike plays to win. He will find the best deck in the format, even if it requires copying another innovator's work (see netdecking). Spike's cards are effective, designed to secure a fast and effective victory over opponents. If Spike plays several games and loses only one, but feels he should have won it, he may be malcontent. Spikes see Timmies as rookies and Johnnies as eccentric and annoying.

(source:http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Magic_slang)

Coffee Vampire

Magic is like driving...

For competitive uses, people all drive the same car...a race car.
Some people like to collect unique or expensive cars and show them off.
And some people just go by with what fits their personality.

I don't think it's any reason to get mad at net-deckers. It's just what people do in standard (competitive racing).

Another way to think of it is like this:

I play Super Smash Bros Melee on the gamecube with my bro. He uses the C-stick to do smash attacks instead of doing them the hard way. Yet because he does this, it's easy to predict his moves. Just block and chain-shot him (yes I play Link) when he jams that C-stick!

Same with net-deckers. You got a problem with them? Well the one thing you are mad at is the one thing that will help you: you know EXACTLY what they are going to do. Plan accordingly.


Kuberr

Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.

#noided

Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.

"Johnnies" is Conley Woods in a nutshell.

BlackJester

Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.
The player archetypes are what R&D use to design and create the cards you love to play.

Kuberr

Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 01:33:26 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.
The player archetypes are what R&D use to design and create the cards you love to play.

And there you go. Theyre for developers. For players outside of that to use it. It's quite funny.

BlackJester

Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 11:16:34 AM
And there you go. Theyre for developers. For players outside of that to use it. It's quite funny.

Why is that funny?  I'm not seeing any comedy here.  ???

It's a way for players to self-identify what it is that they enjoy about the game of Magic.

Greg54js

Well I guess I'm somewhere in between Johnny and timmy 

BlackJester

Quote from: Greg54js on June 04, 2012, 12:20:05 PM
Well I guess I'm somewhere in between Johnny and timmy 
Exactly!  You can have traits of more than one.  Some cards will speak to your Johnny side.  Some will speak to your Timmy side.

I've found that most Spikes don't understand the archetypes because, as they say "Isn't EVERYONE playing to win?"

Sagemaster

Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 04, 2012, 12:20:05 PM
Well I guess I'm somewhere in between Johnny and timmy 
Exactly!  You can have traits of more than one.  Some cards will speak to your Johnny side.  Some will speak to your Timmy side.

I've found that most Spikes don't understand the archetypes because, as they say "Isn't EVERYONE playing to win?"
I don't think I'm a spike but I don't understand archetypes :/ I've been looking for videos to understand them but no dice :/

Kuberr

Useless.

Why must there be names for people? Lol if you enjoy to play the. You enjoy to play. Whether it be casual or competitive, why not just say you're that. Instead of the ridiculous names like "spike" and "bob" or whatever. Lmao.

Waste of time in my opinion.