Standard Sideboard

Started by Kaleo42, June 01, 2012, 03:53:46 PM

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Kaleo42

I am hoping we can get a topic going on sideboarding against our weaknesses in standard. To start off i am playing u/b/r and delver decks are the only hard match up, does anyone have a good idea of what crushes delver (u/r)?
To be clear, ideas and themes will be more helpful than specific card names.

BlackJester

A good idea!  I'm wondering if this would be better housed in the Standard section.  Thoughts everyone?

Kaleo42


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Kaleo42

Awesome. Thank you. So back to the topic. And one know delver well enough to know what it loses to? So far ive found damage prevention and low damage wrath work well but im sure there is more

loop-s-pool

{Whipflare} is good against delver. So is {Gut Shot} and {Vapor Snag}(If you time it right it will take at least 3 of their turns to actually get a chance for delvie to flip.

Kaleo42

Thats very true, my deck doesnt allow much room for me to rely on those cards though, i feel like i would need at least a 3 of any of those. Is there any stagnant options? So far platinum emperion and frost titan have gotten me past delver decks (barely survived invisable stalker), but it was too close for comfort

Kaleo42

I realize that platinum emperion probably confused some of you so i posted my list that won the avacyn mat. Its under Game Day Champ

Dudecore

Blue: {Thought Scour} is good against Delver, because it messes up their {Ponder} setups. Bounce: {Vapor Snag}, {Unsummon} then Counter.

Red: The tons of 2+ dmg red spells. {Pillar of flames}, {slagstorm}, {thunderbolt}, {incinerate} ect.

Green: {Eaten by Spiders}? {Fog}?I don't know.

Black: {Doom Blade}, {Go for the Throat}, ect.

White: control: {Pacify}, {Oblivion Ring}, {Fiend Hunter}.

Everyone: {Ratchet Bomb}

Kaleo42

Quote from: Dudecore on June 01, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
Blue: {Thought Scour} is good against Delver, because it messes up their {Ponder} setups. Bounce: {Vapor Snag}, {Unsummon} then Counter.

Red: The tons of 2+ dmg red spells. {Pillar of flames}, {slagstorm}, {thunderbolt}, {incinerate} ect.

Green: {Eaten by Spiders}? {Fog}?I don't know.

Black: {Doom Blade}, {Go for the Throat}, ect.

White: control: {Pacify}, {Oblivion Ring}, {Fiend Hunter}.

Everyone: {Ratchet Bomb}
Those are sone great points, i feel like ratchet bomb isnt worth the slots when its a one time thing, i cant use glissa or sun titan so i dont feel its worth it since tokens weakend and humans have many differnt mana costs now. Is this the common idea or am i alone on this?

Thorn

No {rachet bomb} is epic.
It creams WW (either one ;) ) and it can wipe opponents boards easily.

Against delver I side in {eaten by spiders} and {rolling temblor} The temblor kills the {invisible stalker} and the spiders kill the delver and the sword (war and peace or body and mind) they put on it after the stalker dies.

Dudecore

Quote from: Thorn on June 01, 2012, 09:44:44 PM
No {rachet bomb} is epic.
It creams WW (either one ;) ) and it can wipe opponents boards easily.

Against delver I side in {eaten by spiders} and {rolling temblor} The temblor kills the {invisible stalker} and the spiders kill the delver and the sword (war and peace or body and mind) they put on it after the stalker dies.

Few Delver decks are running {Invisible Stalker} anymore, and {Sword of Feast and Famine} makes delver immune to {Eaten by Spiders}. Green doesn't have fliers, and thus the harder matchups with Delver.

{Ratchet Bomb} is a better Delver killer IMHO, 2 mana, sac for 0, call it a day.

Agrajagzz9

I play delver and what really kills delver is when u get me top decking. Try the black shrine from new phyrexia. Make me pitch my hand and then killing ways or slagstorm. Done day

Kaleo42

Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on June 02, 2012, 11:04:04 AM
I play delver and what really kills delver is when u get me top decking. Try the black shrine from new phyrexia. Make me pitch my hand and then killing ways or slagstorm. Done day
thank you. I made good use of that shrine at the salt lake GP but it hasnt seen play since, i had forgottten about it.

Ok next deck now, what are you guys struggling against