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Started by Kuberr, May 30, 2012, 11:46:19 AM

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Kuberr

Quote from: GoJuDragon on May 31, 2012, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
Communism sounds great on paper, but human nature won't let it work in practice.

We're just not evolved enough yet.
In the famous words of George Orwell: absolute power corrupts absolutely

Quite right sir.

Piotr

There were plenty bad dictators. Most of them, if not all, left wingers of course.

Feels kinda weird for me to be on a public forum in a discussion about .politics. and no threat of being banned lol.

Kuberr

Quote from: Piotr on May 31, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
There were plenty bad dictators. Most of them, if not all, left wingers of course.

I think you may have that mixed up. Conservatives are the nazis.
Liberals are the communists. Lol

ChrisRodriguez

Quote from: GoJuDragon on May 31, 2012, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
Communism sounds great on paper, but human nature won't let it work in practice.

We're just not evolved enough yet.
In the famous words of George Orwell: absolute power corrupts absolutely
So true

Piotr

Quote from: Kuberr on May 31, 2012, 11:26:52 AM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on May 31, 2012, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
Communism sounds great on paper, but human nature won't let it work in practice.

We're just not evolved enough yet.
In the famous words of George Orwell: absolute power corrupts absolutely

Quite right sir.

Actually, not. It was Lord Acton and I would have difficult time agreeing with his statement.

Kuberr

I honestly believe a little bit of power corrupts everyone.

Join the military, and you'll soon agree.

Piotr

Quote from: Kuberr on May 31, 2012, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: Piotr on May 31, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
There were plenty bad dictators. Most of them, if not all, left wingers of course.

I think you may have that mixed up. Conservatives are the nazis.
Liberals are the communists. Lol

The nazis are national socialists, not conservatives. Mind you, European terminology is quite different from the American and I'm Polish/British.

Kuberr

Quote from: Piotr on May 31, 2012, 11:36:11 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 31, 2012, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: Piotr on May 31, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
There were plenty bad dictators. Most of them, if not all, left wingers of course.

I think you may have that mixed up. Conservatives are the nazis.
Liberals are the communists. Lol

The nazis are national socialists, not conservatives. Mind you, European terminology is quite different from the American and I'm Polish/British.

I know what they are. It's just an ongoing joke I've had because I don't want to choose a side.

Piotr

I was born and raised in a socialist/communist country. For me the side is a no brainer :P

Kuberr

Quote from: Piotr on May 31, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
I was born and raised in a socialist/communist country. For me the side is a no brainer :P

That would do it then.

DirtyMustachio

Tbh even if communism is the most perfect on paper

I'm an entrepreneur we invent things we produce things

And honestly I think a mans worth should be determined by how many lives they effect for the good of mankind

And I feel if I work harder to make things easier or better for others

I deserve to earn more and live more comfortably than people who are mindless drones who just want a paycheck

Everyone has a role to fill I just decide mine

BlackJester

Quote from: Piotr on May 31, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
There were plenty bad dictators. Most of them, if not all, left wingers of course.

Feels kinda weird for me to be on a public forum in a discussion about .politics. and no threat of being banned lol.

I'd like for us to have more of this sort of thing.  There will be no lock-down, moving, or banning as long as people are respectful to each other and we can all talk like adults (even if you aren't one yet).  And by that, I don't mean adult language, kids are still going to be reading this.

Kuberr

I agree.
We can have debates without name calling and verbal assaults.

BlackJester

Communism doesn't work as long as people see and value themselves as individuals over a part of a larger society.  Capitalism works fine, because people tend to act more out of self interest, not something that gets rewarded in Communism.

What do you think was the economic structure on Star Trek (TNG)?  I'm not being rhetorical, does anyone know as fact?

GoJuDragon

In my opinion communism is flawed in part because, due to the fact that every1 gets the same amount of the same things, a person who does no work will get the same things as a person who works their butt off. Which, please excuse my low level wording, I couldn't think of a better word, it just isn't fair. People should be rewarded based on the amount of work the do and how well it is done