Geist-Honored Monk

Started by Thanatos003, July 03, 2016, 03:17:41 AM

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Thanatos003

Just needing clarification on this ruling: The ability that defines Geist-Honored Monk's P/T works in all zones. Does that mean he'd be a 4/4 in my graveyard if I had 4 creatures on the field?

Thanatos003

Well probably gonna leave him outta my RWBla commander deck then since Alesha is my commander.

Kaylesh

Quote from: Prplprince on July 03, 2016, 05:34:01 PM
Quote from: Thanatos003 on July 03, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
Well probably gonna leave him outta my RWBla commander deck then since Alesha is my commander.

{Alesha, Who Smiles at Death} works with him though because  {Geist-Honored Monk} is a 0/0 in your braveyard
This is incorrect.
The ability that defines Geist-Honored Monk's power and toughness works in all zones, not just the battlefield.

griffin131

Quote from: Kaylesh on July 03, 2016, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on July 03, 2016, 05:34:01 PM
Quote from: Thanatos003 on July 03, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
Well probably gonna leave him outta my RWBla commander deck then since Alesha is my commander.

{Alesha, Who Smiles at Death} works with him though because  {Geist-Honored Monk} is a 0/0 in your braveyard
This is incorrect.
The ability that defines Geist-Honored Monk's power and toughness works in all zones, not just the battlefield.
Kaylesh is correct.

208.2a: The card may have a characteristic-defining ability that sets its power and/or toughness according to some stated condition. (See rule 604.3.) Such an ability is worded "[This creature's] [power or toughness] is equal to . . ." or "[This creature's] power and toughness are each equal to . . ." This ability functions everywhere, even outside the game. If the ability needs to use a number that can't be determined, including inside a calculation, use 0 instead of that number.
Example: Lost Order of Jarkeld has power and toughness each equal to 1+*. It has the abilities "As Lost Order of Jarkeld enters the battlefield, choose an opponent" and "Lost Order of Jarkeld's power and toughness are each equal to 1 plus the number of creatures the chosen player controls." While Lost Order of Jarkeld isn't on the battlefield, there won't be a chosen player. Its power and toughness will each be equal to 1 plus 0, so it's 1/1.

Prplprince


Co2

Quote from: Prplprince on July 04, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
Really?

Exactly this.
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