Future Standard Question

Started by Noblellama, August 31, 2015, 06:21:56 PM

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Noblellama

Could a {G}{U}{B} deck be a possible contender in the coming rotation?
{G} for {Collected Company} and {See the Unwritten}
{U} for {Dig Through Time} and control
{B} for removal in general

that's a whole lot of digging/dumping of cards...


(Yes Muggy, im thinking a BUG deck might have some playability ;)  )

or {B} out and {R} in for Atarka?

redwolv

Just thinking land base we will have.
Basics(duh)
Ally fetchs.
Ally tapped life lands
Wedge tapped lands
Enemy pain lands
Ally Land check duels

We have solid acess to ally colors but enemy colors is more limited. So i am not sure

MuggyWuggy

See the unwritten + 2x woodland bellower from it having ferocious triggers - 4 creatures for 6 mana

Mr_Fahrenheit

No shocks. Any shock lands you get in bfz boosters are only legal in limited and any format they are currently already legal in.

redwolv

Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on August 31, 2015, 09:27:39 PM
No shocks. Any shock lands you get in bfz boosters are only legal in limited and any format they are currently already legal in.

Thanks. I saw them in the spoilers but the symbol seemed wierd so was not sure what the deal was.

theravenseye

I don't see the reason why people don't play {Infinite Obliteration}'as it will probably be useful in the current meta.

Codester1991

Quote from: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 10:00:31 AM
I don't see the reason why people don't play {Infinite Obliteration}'as it will probably be useful in the current meta.

Oh you're playing the new Ulamog as your finisher? Okay Infinite obliteration turn 3, hope you can beat me with all those 0/1 eldrazi spawn tokens.

theravenseye

Quote from: Codester1991 on September 01, 2015, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 10:00:31 AM
I don't see the reason why people don't play {Infinite Obliteration}'as it will probably be useful in the current meta.

Oh you're playing the new Ulamog as your finisher? Okay Infinite obliteration turn 3, hope you can beat me with all those 0/1 eldrazi spawn tokens.

People at my LGS say it's a .poo. card. I'm going to prove them wrong.

griffin131

It's not really better than any other incarnation of that effect.
And very few, if any, of them saw play.

({Slaughter Games} for example)

DirtyMustachio

Quote from: griffin131 on September 01, 2015, 12:00:03 PM
It's not really better than any other incarnation of that effect.
And very few, if any, of them saw play.

({Slaughter Games} for example)

I'm pretty sure

{surgical extraction} got and still gets a fair Amount of play, especially back when it was in standard, I'm all like {thought scour} oh what's that {mana leak}? EXTRACT

particle

Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 01, 2015, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on September 01, 2015, 12:00:03 PM
It's not really better than any other incarnation of that effect.
And very few, if any, of them saw play.

({Slaughter Games} for example)

I'm pretty sure

{surgical extraction} got and still gets a fair Amount of play, especially back when it was in standard, I'm all like {thought scour} oh what's that {mana leak}? EXTRACT

But costing 0 mana and 2 life is very different from 3 mana.

VQMracing

Quote from: Codester1991 on September 01, 2015, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 10:00:31 AM
I don't see the reason why people don't play {Infinite Obliteration}'as it will probably be useful in the current meta.

Oh you're playing the new Ulamog as your finisher? Okay Infinite obliteration turn 3, hope you can beat me with all those 0/1 eldrazi spawn tokens.

You can go beat down with them, they are 1/1's haha

theravenseye

Thing is though, the meta when {Slaughter Games} and {Surgical Extraction} were different than this new Eldrazi meta.

Brawler_1337

Quote from: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 10:00:31 AM
I don't see the reason why people don't play {Infinite Obliteration}'as it will probably be useful in the current meta.
The issue with Infinite Obliteration is that it's a do-nothing card for three mana. You cast it turn 3? Sure, I now lose my Siege Rhinos, but that's all you do on your turn 3 and then I untap and drop Courser.

The only cards like Obliteration that saw play were {Extirpate} and {Surgical Extraction}. Why? Extirpate is a one-drop split second, and Extraction only costs two life.

scarsabrex

The problem with the name a card variety of the effect is this. The card is strongest when you are able to rip a copy of the card from their hand the turn before they play it. Because most likely, they had set up their strategy around it and you had actually caused them to lose a card in their hand and not the deck. However when a deck has more than one win condition the problem situation arises when you don't know which bomb they're holding. Back in zendikar-scars standard a common situation was needing to name {inferno titan} or {primeval titan}. More often than not the player would either have the opposite bomb in their hand, which you could not react against, or worse have both in their hand making your ultimate decision pointless. Extirpate and cranial extraction are different, because they're cheaper so they would not cost you your turn to play and came in early enough to target counter spells or removal to protect your own plays.