Shardless buG

Started by MuggyWuggy, September 10, 2014, 01:57:03 PM

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MuggyWuggy

Kiora has been hilarious on untap vs a few decks.

cltrn81

How isnit shardless BUG without shardless agent?  😜

Falcon182

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 18, 2015, 05:01:58 AM
I figure I'm losing 7 cards MB - ancestral visions and 4 shardless agents.

Throw in 3 TNN
1 TZ

testing with ashiok and kiora for the hell of it on untap right now

thinking about sylvan library and some more draw/removal effects

Falcon182

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 18, 2015, 05:01:58 AM
I figure I'm losing 7 cards MB - ancestral visions and 4 shardless agents.

Throw in 3 TNN
1 TZ

testing with ashiok and kiora for the hell of it on untap right now

thinking about sylvan library and some more draw/removal effects

If you just make the changes you said here you're not really bug delver. More of a bug control deck. Bug delver gets all the cheap counter spells and doesn't run jace or mb deluge usually.

MuggyWuggy

I'm thinking more of the control aspect and also just doing the ol' playing with the cards I got.

For delver - what pool of cards would any of you add
A few spell pierces/snares and some ponders i assume?

Quote from: cltrn81 on July 18, 2015, 10:02:46 AM
How isnit shardless BUG without shardless agent?  😜
lol well i can always throw shardless back in the formula
just wanna try another bug control deck as shardless is kind of weak right now

Would love to figure out a way to stabilize it more. Perhaps tighten what can be cascaded? Add a few counters?

blackychan1

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 18, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
I'm thinking more of the control aspect and also just doing the ol' playing with the cards I got.

For delver - what pool of cards would any of you add
A few spell pierces/snares and some ponders i assume?
Pretty much. Lol maybe a few {Daze}, {dark confidant}, {disfigure}, and {stifle}

MuggyWuggy

So I just threw {pack rat} in the mix


The lolz - too many cards, land locked? Pitch and make rats


Just played an untap game where a guy buffs 2/2 bears

He plays cost of arms

I have 3 Goyfs (6/7 already) and 3 pack rats.

Abrupt decay his buffs and laugh my way to victory

MuggyWuggy

Ok, so testing a library with this online has been realllly strong, been getting really good with this deck. Won a local tournament last night also (only 7 people but hey!)

Also I dominate a miracles matchup, 4 FoW and a library really improved this deck

Also dropped a verdant for a plain island, may switch it back but I also like one of each basic avail

MuggyWuggy

Vs show and tell yesterday

T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island

Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul

Get the one in his hand :)



Such a fun spell

MuggyWuggy

Considering adding {pithing needle} and {krosan grip} to sb

What else works well vs top

Played a miracles mentor the other day and the recast top nonsense is ridiculous

MacheteMable

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 24, 2015, 01:08:02 PM
Considering adding {pithing needle} and {krosan grip} to sb

What else works well vs top

Played a miracles mentor the other day and the recast top nonsense is ridiculous
Against top you need something that does nothing.....

Falcon182

Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 13, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
Vs show and tell yesterday

T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island

Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul

Get the one in his hand :)



Such a fun spell

Either he's playing a bad list, or he's playing bad.  Show and tell only has volcanic for {young pyromancer}s in the side and maby a brought in {red elemental blast}.  Also, the vast majority of the time it wins without emmy because of the {release the ants} combo.

Still takes 3-4 lands out of their deck. Can help if they're tight already.

MacheteMable

Quote from: Falcon182 on August 24, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 13, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
Vs show and tell yesterday

T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island

Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul

Get the one in his hand :)



Such a fun spell

Either he's playing a bad list, or he's playing bad.  Show and tell only has volcanic for {young pyromancer}s in the side and maby a brought in {red elemental blast}.  Also, the vast majority of the time it wins without emmy because of the {release the ants} combo.

Still takes 3-4 lands out of their deck. Can help if they're tight already.
That's a big "if" though. Most omnitell decks run 2, sometimes 3 volcanic. Extraction is better used getting non-land cards or fetches if you really want to hit a land.

MacheteMable

Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
My list runs 1 volcanic. More are unnecessary. Surgical on the fetch would be better
The only time 2 is even necessary is if they have wasteland and even then it's not that important because you only fetch the red in order to fight a counter war.

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 13, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
Vs show and tell yesterday

T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island

Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul

Get the one in his hand :)



Such a fun spell

Either he's playing a bad list, or he's playing bad.  Show and tell only has volcanic for {young pyromancer}s in the side and maby a brought in {red elemental blast}.  Also, the vast majority of the time it wins without emmy because of the {release the ants} combo.

Deck was sneak and show