Magic: Origins (Speculation and Spoilers)

[Mattao19]

💡: {moonmist} transforms humans, Origin walkers are double-faced humans, so they'll transform with no loyalty counters on them. Bye walker!

No it'll transform them into their normal PW form

[griffin131]

💡: {moonmist} transforms humans, Origin walkers are double-faced humans, so they'll transform with no loyalty counters on them. Bye walker!

No it'll transform them into their normal PW form

No, it won't.
They won't have counters unless they ETB as a walker, which is why they exile and return transformed.

[Mattao19]

💡: {moonmist} transforms humans, Origin walkers are double-faced humans, so they'll transform with no loyalty counters on them. Bye walker!

No it'll transform them into their normal PW form

No, it won't.
They won't have counters unless they ETB as a walker, which is why they exile and return transformed.

Really? Do we have a ruling?

[griffin131]

💡: {moonmist} transforms humans, Origin walkers are double-faced humans, so they'll transform with no loyalty counters on them. Bye walker!

No it'll transform them into their normal PW form

No, it won't.
They won't have counters unless they ETB as a walker, which is why they exile and return transformed.

Really? Do we have a ruling?

209.1.: Each planeswalker card has a loyalty number printed in its lower right corner. This indicates its loyalty while it's not on the battlefield, and it also indicates that the planeswalker enters the battlefield with that many loyalty counters on it.

PWs get counters on ETB.
No ETB, no counters. No counters is a sad Planeswalker.
Tabak answered the same thing but I'm too lazy to find the link.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

💡: {moonmist} transforms humans, Origin walkers are double-faced humans, so they'll transform with no loyalty counters on them. Bye walker!

No it'll transform them into their normal PW form

No, it won't.
They won't have counters unless they ETB as a walker, which is why they exile and return transformed.

Really? Do we have a ruling?

209.1.: Each planeswalker card has a loyalty number printed in its lower right corner. This indicates its loyalty while it's not on the battlefield, and it also indicates that the planeswalker enters the battlefield with that many loyalty counters on it.

PWs get counters on ETB.
No ETB, no counters. No counters is a sad Planeswalker.
Tabak answered the same thing but I'm too lazy to find the link.

The only one it doesn't kill is Nissa

[Kaylesh]

💡: {moonmist} transforms humans, Origin walkers are double-faced humans, so they'll transform with no loyalty counters on them. Bye walker!

No it'll transform them into their normal PW form

No, it won't.
They won't have counters unless they ETB as a walker, which is why they exile and return transformed.

Really? Do we have a ruling?

209.1.: Each planeswalker card has a loyalty number printed in its lower right corner. This indicates its loyalty while it's not on the battlefield, and it also indicates that the planeswalker enters the battlefield with that many loyalty counters on it.

PWs get counters on ETB.
No ETB, no counters. No counters is a sad Planeswalker.
Tabak answered the same thing but I'm too lazy to find the link.

The only one it doesn't kill is Nissa

True. We'll just have to send Garruk after her then..

[Kaalia with haste]

The demon that gave liliana her powers... kotheped or whatever is the black legendary

3BB

6/6 flier

When a permanent an opponent controls goes to graveyard, draw a card and lose a life

It doesn't say may...

Drop a ton of tokens, board wipe, demon controller dies with a full hand

It's relevant that it's actually 4BB, I saw your post and thought he might be really good and that I misread him, but I checked, he's 6 mana, sorry kids we don't have a 5 mana 6/6 flying with an upside

[Kaylesh]

Mmmmmm...sweepers.

Languish--{2}{B}{B}
Sorcery
All creatures get -4/-4 until end of turn.

I like that one with the demon.
Or some evil sac-cycle. What was that raid-guy that returned from the grave again?

[DirtyMustachio]

Mmmmmm...sweepers.

Languish--{2}{B}{B}
Sorcery
All creatures get -4/-4 until end of turn.

I like that one with the demon.
Or some evil sac-cycle. What was that raid-guy that returned from the grave again?

{bloodsoaked champion}

[Kaylesh]

Mmmmmm...sweepers.

Languish--{2}{B}{B}
Sorcery
All creatures get -4/-4 until end of turn.

I like that one with the demon.
Or some evil sac-cycle. What was that raid-guy that returned from the grave again?

{bloodsoaked champion}

Tx. With some way to generate mana off his demise, he can die quite a lot.

[DirtyMustachio]

{springleaf drum} maybe?

[Splicer]

OMG

Languish
{2}{B}{B}
ALL creatures get -4/-4 until end of turn
Sorcery

Esper control gonna be happy...

Yes I am...

[Splicer]

OMG

Languish
{2}{B}{B}
ALL creatures get -4/-4 until end of turn
Sorcery

Esper control gonna be happy...

WHY U NO {DAMNATION}?!?!?!?!

Because I have {wrath of god}, and NOT $50 to spend on a single.

[MuggyWuggy]

Well that thing kills most of standard

[LinkCelestrial]

Renowned seems cool but bad to me. Spell Mastery just might be my all time favorite mechanic.

There seems to be a ton of U/W tempo cards. If we get a decent finisher it could be a thing.