Esper Control

Started by Splicer, May 12, 2015, 05:20:51 PM

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Splicer

Go for the throat was in there before, but Murderous cut is cheaper and the delve is nice. I may check out murderous cut once I get the deck.

Mattao19

Quote from: Splicer on May 19, 2015, 07:47:51 AM
Go for the throat was in there before, but Murderous cut is cheaper and the delve is nice. I may check out murderous cut once I get the deck.

Have you not bought the deck yet?

Esper

{Victim of the night} is also good. and I ran a singleton of {Dimir Charm} just in case.

Esper

And {Path to Exile} is a must have in this. It won't damage your budget, and the promo's coming out soon.

Splicer

Quote from: Esper on May 19, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
And {Path to Exile} is a must have in this. It won't damage your budget, and the promo's coming out soon.
An extra $28 is out of budget at the moment. I'll wait for the promo.

Quote from: Mattao19 on May 19, 2015, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: Splicer on May 19, 2015, 07:47:51 AM
Go for the throat was in there before, but Murderous cut is cheaper and the delve is nice. I may check out murderous cut once I get the deck.

Have you not bought the deck yet?
No, I plan on buying it once I'm sure it's as good as it's going to get without the previously mentioned upgrades.

Mattao19

Quote from: Splicer on May 19, 2015, 11:51:18 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 19, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
And {Path to Exile} is a must have in this. It won't damage your budget, and the promo's coming out soon.
An extra $28 is out of budget at the moment. I'll wait for the promo.

Quote from: Mattao19 on May 19, 2015, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: Splicer on May 19, 2015, 07:47:51 AM
Go for the throat was in there before, but Murderous cut is cheaper and the delve is nice. I may check out murderous cut once I get the deck.

Have you not bought the deck yet?
No, I plan on buying it once I'm sure it's as good as it's going to get without the previously mentioned upgrades.

Ok that changes a lot of things lol I was holding back :P I'll post new suggestions soon (1/2 hour or so) :D

Mattao19

Here's a list off the top of my head that's fairly budget. One thing to ask is do you own the PWs? If not you can buy better cards like Creeping tar Pits.

Anyways:

Sorcery:
4 {Lingering souls} reason to be in Esper
2 {Supreme Verdict} obvi :P
1 {Wrath of God} bc Thrun is a card
7 Sorceries

Instant:
2 {Esper Charm} tbh it's ok not great it's good instant speed draw but I actually like it better as instant speed discard
4 {Mana Leak} or {Rune Snag} without Snapcaster I think Snag is better
4 {Dissolve}
2 {Murderous Cut} (don't exile snags lol)
1 {Go for the Throat}
3 {Condemn} (should be Paths)
2 {Think Twice} trust me it's good
2 {Sphinx's Revelation}
20 Instants

3 {Detention Sphere}

3 {Gideon From Zendikar}
1 {Jace Architect of Thought}

26 Land I highly recommend {Creeping Tar Pits} at least 2 of them

Esper

Quote from: Mattao19 on May 19, 2015, 02:16:58 PM
Here's a list off the top of my head that's fairly budget. One thing to ask is do you own the PWs? If not you can buy better cards like Creeping tar Pits.

Anyways:

Sorcery:
4 {Lingering souls} reason to be in Esper
2 {Supreme Verdict} obvi :P
1 {Wrath of God} bc Thrun is a card
7 Sorceries

Instant:
2 {Esper Charm} tbh it's ok not great it's good instant speed draw but I actually like it better as instant speed discard
4 {Mana Leak} or {Rune Snag} without Snapcaster I think Snag is better
4 {Dissolve}
2 {Murderous Cut} (don't exile snags lol)
1 {Go for the Throat}
3 {Condemn} (should be Paths)
2 {Think Twice} trust me it's good
2 {Sphinx's Revelation}
20 Instants

3 {Detention Sphere}

3 {Gideon From Zendikar}
1 {Jace Architect of Thought}

26 Land I highly recommend {Creeping Tar Pits} at least 2 of them
On point!
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 19, 2015, 01:48:10 PM
I just realized, no one had brought up {Sphinx's Revelation}, definitely a one or two of.
I thought it was already in there. 😜 My bad. It's a definite.

Esper

Quote from: bravado883 on May 20, 2015, 10:07:00 AM
I agree with most of what Mattao said as far as the cards, although I would be a bit different on the numbers. I'm also a fan of {Think Twice} if you don't want to drop $40 for common {Serum Visions} (dumb). A few other good ones:

{Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}
{Shadow of Doubt}--super funny in response to fetching.
{Tectonic Edge}--if you can support it with your mana base.
{Dismember}
{Duress}/{Despise}? Part of the upside to Esper is disruption--stupid expensive {Thoughtseize}/{Inquisition of Kozilek}

Sorry if some of these were previously mentioned. If so, ignore 'em.

Love me some Esper!

{Dismember} is awesome. Even {Ghost quarter} is good. And i mentioned {Shadow of Doubt}, also it doesn't kill your wallet. :D

Mattao19


Splicer

Quote from: bravado883 on May 20, 2015, 10:07:00 AM
I agree with most of what Mattao said as far as the cards, although I would be a bit different on the numbers. I'm also a fan of {Think Twice} if you don't want to drop $40 for common {Serum Visions} (dumb). A few other good ones:

{Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}
{Shadow of Doubt}--super funny in response to fetching.
{Tectonic Edge}--if you can support it with your mana base.
{Dismember}
{Duress}/{Despise}? Part of the upside to Esper is disruption--stupid expensive {Thoughtseize}/{Inquisition of Kozilek}

Sorry if some of these were previously mentioned. If so, ignore 'em.

Love me some Esper!
Sorin-good, but I'm not sure what I would take out.
Shadow of doubt-sideboard?
Tectonic edge- difficult because of mana
Dismember-good, but {sphinx's revelation} is my only lifegain
Hand disruption-yes

Posting an updated list(minus these changes) soon.

Esper

Shadow is also good main, drawing cards is my favorite thing to do in Magic.

DimirOverlord1300

Dismember is bad in black decks. It's strong because it offers removal to non black decks but when you're in black there's no reason to play it over something like murderous cut.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on May 20, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Dismember is bad in black decks. It's strong because it offers removal to non black decks but when you're in black there's no reason to play it over something like murderous cut.

I'm mostly inclined to agree. I mean {Dismember} is good in the right situation but I'd personally rather be casting {Murderous Cut} or {Go for the Throat}.

Splicer