Esper Control

[LinkCelestrial]

Yeah, that's what i meant. My bad.. Maybe, he could do two main? I did back when i played Esper in modern. Did pretty good. i don't think Serum should be in it at all. {gitaxian probe} maybe?

{Peek} is kinda better in control.

{murderous cut}>{murder}

Agreed.

G probe is strictly better than peek

Instant speed. Control doesn't really want to pay life.

[Munchlax]

Yeah, that's what i meant. My bad.. Maybe, he could do two main? I did back when i played Esper in modern. Did pretty good. i don't think Serum should be in it at all. {gitaxian probe} maybe?

{Peek} is kinda better in control.

{murderous cut}>{murder}

Agreed.

G probe is strictly better than peek

Instant speed. Control doesn't really want to pay life.

But g probe can still be done on your turn for either two life or 1 blue.

Either way I say 50/50 split

[LinkCelestrial]

Yeah, that's what i meant. My bad.. Maybe, he could do two main? I did back when i played Esper in modern. Did pretty good. i don't think Serum should be in it at all. {gitaxian probe} maybe?

{Peek} is kinda better in control.

{murderous cut}>{murder}

Agreed.

G probe is strictly better than peek

Instant speed. Control doesn't really want to pay life.

But g probe can still be done on your turn for either two life or 1 blue.

Either way I say 50/50 split

I've had a preference to {Peek} in control shells. It's certainly worth trying both.

[Esper]

I agree on {Peek} better. Both are good either way.

[Mattao19]

Logic Knot and Murderous Cut CANNOT be played in the same deck without fetchlands. I mean if you have fetches sure run them but without fetches it's a no go.

Think Twic is underated it's a good card drawer.

Cut demons they are hideously bad in modern.

Serum Visions is a good card for here but for price reasons I understand why it's not.

I'd look at getting {Creeping Tar Pits}

[Splicer]

Logic Knot and Murderous Cut CANNOT be played in the same deck without fetchlands. I mean if you have fetches sure run them but without fetches it's a no go.

Think Twic is underated it's a good card drawer.

Cut demons they are hideously bad in modern.

Serum Visions is a good card for here but for price reasons I understand why it's not.

I'd look at getting {Creeping Tar Pits}

1. I removed logic knot
2.I don't like think twice, It's 5 mana for a {Divination}
3.The demons have preformed well in testing so far, and on untap they've been great.
4.I'm trying to make this so I can buy it, agreed that I'll gradually update it with things like lands, {Serum Visions}, and {Path to exile}.
5.see above

I'll post an updated deck list soon.

[Mattao19]

Think twice is not 5 mana divination it's being able to keep up 2 mana for a counter and still have something to do eot in case they don't do anything

[Splicer]

I still probably won't run it.

[Mattao19]

Fair enough also I would not run Condescend. It's an awful Counterspell in this shell tron can run it bc well tron can pay a lot for X

[Splicer]

Condescend has actually been great, the scry is relevant and early game it is amazing. Late game it gets worse but is still alright.

[Mattao19]

Hate to be that guy but untap is not a good indicator of good cards I mean sure it's great for free testing but it is not competitive enough to justify it (if that's your argument) I'd run other things instead of Condescend.

Also dissipate? Is Dissolve not just better what in mdn is worth exiling? There aren't too many GY decks

[Esper]

Hate to be that guy but untap is not a good indicator of good cards I mean sure it's great for free testing but it is not competitive enough to justify it (if that's your argument) I'd run other things instead of Condescend.

Also dissipate? Is Dissolve not just better what in mdn is worth exiling? There aren't too many GY decks

Much Agreement.

[Splicer]

Hate to be that guy but untap is not a good indicator of good cards I mean sure it's great for free testing but it is not competitive enough to justify it (if that's your argument) I'd run other things instead of Condescend.

Also dissipate? Is Dissolve not just better what in mdn is worth exiling? There aren't too many GY decks

I know all this, and Dissolve is in the updated decklist, which I have so far not uploaded.

[Splicer]

Updated

[Esper]

Why no {Go for the Throat}? It's really good, especially for most meta's.