U/G Superfriends

[cltrn81]

U/G Superfriends 60 cards, 0 sideboard 4 {Breeding Pool} 7 {Forest} 4 {Island} 4 {Wooded Foothills} 4 {Windswept Heath} 23 lands 1 {Eternal Witness} 1 {Snapcaster Mage} 4 {Sakura-Tribe Elder} 5 creatures 3 {Mana Leak} 4 {Fog} 4 {Explore} 4 {Remand} 3 {Savor the Moment} 2 {Doubling Season} 3 {Nissa, Worldwaker} 3 {Jace, Architect of Thought} 2 {Kiora, the Crashing Wave} 1 {Garruk Wildspeaker} 1 {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} 1 {Ugin, the Spirit Dragon} 32 other spells Sideboard

[cltrn81]

Rough draft.  Need ideas

[LinkCelestrial]

I /just/ made a U/G list. Playset of {Doubling Season} is must. Thassa seems bad. {Simic Growth chamber} is amazing with Garruk and {Explore}. {Savour the Moment} is bad IMO.

[cltrn81]

I /just/ made a U/G list. Playset of {Doubling Season} is must. Thassa seems bad. {Simic Growth chamber} is amazing with Garruk and {Explore}. {Savour the Moment} is bad IMO.

thassa is on the fence.  Thought about Simic and {khalni garden} but want to maximize forests for nissa.  Savor is great with Nissa and garruk.....it also goes infinite with Tamiyo emblem.  Would love to playset the doubling season but I need to get 2 more.

The idea is to ultimate jace with a season out, get another jace and ultimate him again, get another jace and ultimate him again, get an ugin and ultimate him.  Meanwhile I also get the goodies from opponents deck.  Or I go for Tamiyo and savor combo

Think I'll add {gifts ungiven} and can't remember the green card for a single phyrexian mana that puts a card on top of your library

[Skullguy725]

That would be {Noxious revival}

[cltrn81]

That would be {Noxious revival}

This

Cast {gifts ungiven}, search revival, e witness, and what ever combo pieces I need = profit

[LinkCelestrial]

That would be {Noxious revival}

This

Cast {gifts ungiven}, search revival, e witness, and what ever combo pieces I need = profit

I like that idea. How has it been working out?

This list looks a tad inconsistent with low numbers in key cards. I also feel like more land is needed.

[cltrn81]

This deck desperately needs more cantrips ramp, and answers. You're counting on remand and fog to get you to 4-5 mana before you can play a third of your deck, and if you get stuck on 3 mana, you're hosed. You need to be able to dig for more answers and land.

what do you think I should take out?  I have BoP, remand, and explore to help me get to 4-5 mana.  Think I should drop some PW to add {serum visions} or something?

I could scrap the gifts idea and free up 5 slots.

I could scrap the tamiyo and savor combo and free up 4 slots.

[particle]

This deck desperately needs more cantrips ramp, and answers. You're counting on remand and fog to get you to 4-5 mana before you can play a third of your deck, and if you get stuck on 3 mana, you're hosed. You need to be able to dig for more answers and land.

what do you think I should take out?  I have BoP, remand, and explore to help me get to 4-5 mana.  Think I should drop some PW to add {serum visions} or something?

I could scrap the gifts idea and free up 5 slots.

I could scrap the tamiyo and savor combo and free up 4 slots.

Id scrap the gifts combo. Savor is great with walkers.

[cltrn81]

This deck desperately needs more cantrips ramp, and answers. You're counting on remand and fog to get you to 4-5 mana before you can play a third of your deck, and if you get stuck on 3 mana, you're hosed. You need to be able to dig for more answers and land.

what do you think I should take out?  I have BoP, remand, and explore to help me get to 4-5 mana.  Think I should drop some PW to add {serum visions} or something?

I could scrap the gifts idea and free up 5 slots.

I could scrap the tamiyo and savor combo and free up 4 slots.

Id scrap the gifts combo. Savor is great with walkers.

I was thinking the same.......and I do not have any Gifts yet anyway


Suggestions to add if I take out e-witness, 3 gifts, and noxious?

Maybe 4 {serum visions} and 1 {snapcaster mage}?  Could also add {sakura tribe elders} for ramp.

[LinkCelestrial]

In my Bant list the first few turns are spent ramping with {Search for Tomorrow} and {Farseek}. There's also {Path to Exile}, {Dawn Charm} and {Supreme Verdict} to help stabilize. With U/G I think you should be ramping hard to speed up the deck so it's making big plays earlier. {Search for Tomorrow}, {Rampant Growth} and {Explore} should do it. I'd also up the land count by one or two. (Bolt the bird is a huge thing right now and I opted out of creatures in my list because I'd like to run wraths and make removal bad. The creature path can work too though.)

You need to decide what game plans you're on. Without {Simic Growth Chamber} {Garruk, Wildspeaker} feels a tad less powerful and synergetic than he should be. He works best with {Savour the Moment} alongside {Nissa, Worldwaker}. I feel like you need to add {Simic Growth Chamber} to max out your utility from him. I also feel like he's a two of.

{Nissa, Worldwaker} feels underwhelming. You should be running {Misty Rainforest} and more basics to max out her potential. (Guessing this is budget or availability issue). Her ult seems like an auto win vs anything without a board wipe. But does she truly warrant three slots?

{Jace, Architect of Thought} is one of the best cards in this deck. He sponges damage, draws cards and his ult is insane. {Doubling Season} into Jace + Jace + Jace ending with {Ugin, the Spirit Dragon} is amazing. Part of me thinks he's a four of.

{Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} feels like one of your best cards. Like seriously. Her +1 is a targeted {Fog}. If you have her ult plus a {fog} you can forget about taking combat damage. You have an infinite turns combo. I'm debating adding her to my Bant list. So the question is, why only one?

{Kiora, the Crashing Wave} she is fantastic. There's a reason she only starts with 2 loyalty. She's that good. She's probably the best win con in the deck, and her +1 and -1 are very relevant.

IMO this deck needs to be ramp + Turbo Fog.

[cltrn81]

I did originally think about BANT Superfriends so I can run paths and what not.

[cltrn81]

perfect world scenerio
T1 forest, BoP
T2 breeding pool, explore, forest and still have 2 mana open for potential remand
T3 forest, Nissa and +1 to untap 4 forest and maybe drop another PW
T4 you have 9 mana with just nissa and without a new land drop


Honestly have done zero play testing.  The deck relies on getting PW out to control the board state and/or ramp into more PWs.....but Conan is exactly right if I get stuck on 3 I am deader than dead.

[LinkCelestrial]

If we're talking that there's

T1 forest, {Birds of Paradise}

T2 {Breeding Pool}, {Explore}, {Island}, {Remand}

T3 any land {Doubling Season}

T4 {Jace, Architect of Thought} ult into Jace into Jace into Ugin, ult Ugin into pretty much anything and win.

My Bant list has a similar god hand. It's just so unlikely.

[cltrn81]

The problem with your ideal is you could just be dead at that point to a number of decks.

how many modern decks kill T3-T4?