Treasure cruise legality

Kaylesh · April 21, 2015, 03:08:34 PM

I noticed that {Treasure cruise} still is considered legal in Modern, Legacy and Vintage according to app legality. According to gatherer the card is banned in modern & legacy and restricted in vintage.

Dsx Cherno · April 22, 2015, 09:49:09 AM

Damn. Gotta take outta modern. Still legal in EDH?

Kaylesh · April 22, 2015, 11:10:28 AM

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 22, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
Damn. Gotta take outta modern. Still legal in EDH?

According to the list on magic.wizards.com it would be legal. Still, there's so many different sources on EDH I don't dare to answer that one tbh.

Dsx Cherno · April 22, 2015, 11:21:00 AM

Quote from: Kaylesh on April 22, 2015, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 22, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
Damn. Gotta take outta modern. Still legal in EDH?
According to the list on magic.wizards.com it would be legal. Still, there's so many different sources on EDH I don't dare to answer that one tbh.

As far as I'm concerned, Wizards sets the rules. Anyone else can suck it

Kaylesh · April 22, 2015, 01:24:35 PM

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 22, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on April 22, 2015, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 22, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
Damn. Gotta take outta modern. Still legal in EDH?
According to the list on magic.wizards.com it would be legal. Still, there's so many different sources on EDH I don't dare to answer that one tbh.

As far as I'm concerned, Wizards sets the rules. Anyone else can suck it

But what if wizards explicitly states (in CR 900-ish), that they are not the only ones

Basically, what I read on EDH, play groups are encouraged to have house rules and house ban lists, so if your group finds Emmy ok, it's ok. After all, it is a casual format. Tourney's use French ban list I believe. But, like I said, I'm quite new to the format.

Dsx Cherno · April 22, 2015, 01:43:39 PM

My group is just starting to play EDH, so for now it's whatever is on the Wizards list

Kaylesh · April 22, 2015, 02:24:16 PM

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 22, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
My group is just starting to play EDH, so for now it's whatever is on the Wizards list

http://magic.wizards.com/en/gameinfo/gameplay/formats/commander
URL of the list.

Dsx Cherno · April 22, 2015, 05:56:23 PM

Ty sir

rarehuntertay · April 24, 2015, 08:56:22 AM

Quote from: Kaylesh on April 22, 2015, 02:24:16 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 22, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
My group is just starting to play EDH, so for now it's whatever is on the Wizards list
http://magic.wizards.com/en/gameinfo/gameplay/formats/commander
URL of the list.

Notice that on the wizards page they give you a link to where they get their info on Commander.
Wizards does not determine the ban list for EDH, except for maybe Magic Online.
In fact, there are two separate ban lists maintained by two different entities depending in whether you play group games or 1v1 competitive.

Kaylesh · April 24, 2015, 09:06:04 AM

Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 24, 2015, 08:56:22 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on April 22, 2015, 02:24:16 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 22, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
My group is just starting to play EDH, so for now it's whatever is on the Wizards list
http://magic.wizards.com/en/gameinfo/gameplay/formats/commander
URL of the list.
Notice that on the wizards page they give you a link to where they get their info on Commander.
Wizards does not determine the ban list for EDH, except for maybe Magic Online.
In fact, there are two separate ban lists maintained by two different entities depending in whether you play group games or 1v1 competitive.

Exactly what I meant with my earlier comment.
French, competitive Commander, is a whole different ball game then the original EDH.
Example: Emmy is totally ok in French.

Dsx Cherno · April 24, 2015, 09:35:48 AM

This is ridiculously confusing. I don't wanna have to have lists and rules from multiple conflicting sources to play a format

rarehuntertay · April 26, 2015, 03:56:46 AM

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 24, 2015, 09:35:48 AM
This is ridiculously confusing. I don't wanna have to have lists and rules from multiple conflicting sources to play a format

That's because there are two formats currently for EDH. None which were created by Wizards. Wizards only really took up EDH in the past couple years.
It's the same thing with Tiny Leaders. Player created format that has gradually gained momentum. Ban list and stuff maintained by an entity other than Wizards.

Rass · April 26, 2015, 10:27:47 AM

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 24, 2015, 09:35:48 AM
This is ridiculously confusing. I don't wanna have to have lists and rules from multiple conflicting sources to play a format

I don't know. I see it more as how there are different list for standard,modern,legacy,etc.

Dsx Cherno · April 26, 2015, 01:39:27 PM

But wizards is selling EDH decks. Why can't the set down the "official tourney rules" for it? Then I'll have the only source that matters for it.

rarehuntertay · April 26, 2015, 02:38:23 PM

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 26, 2015, 01:39:27 PM
But wizards is selling EDH decks. Why can't the set down the "official tourney rules" for it? Then I'll have the only source that matters for it.

Because then it'll become an "official" format for "competitive" play, which is something the Rules Committee for EDH does not want. And currently Wizards is respecting that and seeks their guidance on new products for Commander.