Unsatisfactory trades with Esper.

Started by Thetrufflehunter, April 13, 2015, 04:36:05 PM

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Thetrufflehunter

"7 dancer + 6 DL + 7 downfall?"
"That's fine. Unless you have a regular dancer"

This is quoted from my inbox. I can screenshot if you want me to.

the_intelligentleman

Esper. You said you had cards that you didn't have. You cannot send cards back once you have already received. Just man up and deliver value back to truffle, and stop trying to wiggle your way out of it. You had a deal, and you broke it, and it's your job to fix it.

Esper

I did have his end. I stated I forgot about our trade.

the_intelligentleman

Quote from: Esper on April 16, 2015, 03:45:25 PM
I did have his end. I stated I forgot about our trade.
Alright. So that's still your fault. And it's still your job to fix it.

Esper


Thetrufflehunter

Quote from: Esper on April 16, 2015, 03:59:42 PM
He's stated he wants his end back.
I've stated that I would prefer you send value, as said many times before. That is the easy fix to this issue. It's common courtesy. However, if you adamant about sending back my dragon lord, then I would like all of the pieces back. And that is keeping you on my untrusted traders list.

Ieatfood7

Esper.

You have tried to fix your shipping mistake with me and it hasn't gotten fixed yet. That is both our faults as we have had slow communications.

Do you have an updated list of cards to cover the $5 cash you owe me, or the money?

Esper

Leat, I have a thread titled 'final esper list...', go ahead and let me know and I'll get it out.

Ieatfood7

Ok. I'll PM you ether then make everyone listen to me talk about specific cards

Kaalia with haste

Just wanted to pop in and say props to esper, he made a mistake because he's human, we all .love. up sometimes. It would've been really easy to just vanish from the forum and hold on to everything and no one would have a way to contact him again, instead he's here and from my end it seems like he's handling all this pretty reasonably. Note that I'm not saying this means he shouldn't make up for his mistakes or even he should be taken off the untrusted traders list, I'm just saying he's handling this very well.

MtJesus-Johnson

I've got a whole conversation with Esper screenshotted because the .poo. he was saying when we were trying to set up a trade was so all over the place that I had to show my friends to see if they understood and I was just stupid. As it turns out, I'm not stupid. It wasn't that he was untrustworthy or anything, but god damn it I couldn't for ANYTHING get a straight answer out of this guy. Again, it wasn't shady or anything, just ungodly frustrating.

MtJesus-Johnson

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on April 16, 2015, 04:49:24 PM
Just wanted to pop in and say props to esper, he made a mistake because he's human, we all .love. up sometimes. It would've been really easy to just vanish from the forum and hold on to everything and no one would have a way to contact him again, instead he's here and from my end it seems like he's handling all this pretty reasonably. Note that I'm not saying this means he shouldn't make up for his mistakes or even he should be taken off the untrusted traders list, I'm just saying he's handling this very well.
I agree. I don't want to see another mob started against anyone, and his actions seem to be doing a good job a keeping that from happening. Though he can be frustrating to work with, I've never seen a real attitude problem or anything from him. 👌

Esper

Very true, it's mainly because I got scammed a couple times over another online trading for close to $40, so I kinda tend to be that way. I will not be doing that anymore, and will be sending the amount promised to truffle.

Esper

And I'm on the Facebook mtg group. Otis is on there with me as well.

Esper

You and llama have received, along with kaalia. I was the one who over reacted over a dragon, which I don't mind using after sideboard to surprise the opponent.