Debate Here

[Taysby]

*moves debate from getting drunk thread to here*

[NovusOrbis]

Alcohol isn't bad if you drink responsibly. I did a month or so of research in chemistry AP on alcohol, and the only reason the drinking age in America is 21 is because the Fed was going to cut funding to highways if they didn't raise the age. There was a 30 year study done on a group of people who began drinking at 18 and a group at 21 in a college environment. They found no correlation in age and drunk driving, it all depends on the responsibilty of the individual.

[NovusOrbis]

I just assumed that is the main argument against alcohol. That and Alcoholism. But those only happen if you abuse alcohol, do just be responsible.

[the_intelligentleman]

I just assumed that is the main argument against alcohol. That and Alcoholism. But those only happen if you abuse alcohol, do just be responsible.

*claps*

[NovusOrbis]

Well yes and no. It only damages the brain permanently if you constantly get drunk. It inhibits your reaction time by weakening the nerves where synapses occur, but those heal quickly once you sober up.

Drink to drink, not to get drunk

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

My question: why is alcohol legal, and something less dangerous a schedule 1 drug? When are we going to realize that the whole system is arbitrary and should be redone by people who know what they are taking about instead of politicians?

[NovusOrbis]

Because the last time they outlawed it organized crime was created.

Or got big at least, I don't know when it was "officially" created.

[rarehuntertay]

My question: why is alcohol legal, and something less dangerous a schedule 1 drug? When are we going to realize that the whole system is arbitrary and should be redone by people who know what they are taking about instead of politicians?

Because alcohol has medicinal uses. Schedule I drugs have no medical use.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

My question: why is alcohol legal, and something less dangerous a schedule 1 drug? When are we going to realize that the whole system is arbitrary and should be redone by people who know what they are taking about instead of politicians?

Because alcohol has medicinal uses. Schedule I drugs have no medical use.

Marajuana is the drug I am specifically referencing, so that is not true.

[rarehuntertay]

Marijuana is not a schedule I drug in some states now.
Also, more than just "high dangerous" a drug is goes into determining what Schedule a drug is. High abuse potential is another determining factor.

[Heats Flamesman]

The only thing I'm saying in here is that America is the bomb-diggity.

Carry on.

[cltrn81]

Because the last time they outlawed it organized crime was created.

Or got big at least, I don't know when it was "officially" created.

organized crime was already prevalent. ..organized crime just seized the opportunity to continue in a new illegal venture that had a current customer base.

Would be like if they made mac n cheese illegal.  I would be a law breaking mofo to get me some mac n cheese.

I think prohibition is good example of why a true laissez-faire free market could never work.  The government was regulating alcohol and setting rules on things such as the ingredients, ensuring the proof is accurate, and what not.  Then the government made it illegal and could not regulate it anymore.....this led to people using poisonous ingredients and not telling the customers, watering down the proof and selling it as a higher proof, etc.  Then the government stepped back in and everything is fine.....other than people abusing alcohol.   Funny trivia is that the "mix drink" was never popular before prohibition. ...people had to create mix drinks like rum and coke just to get past the terrible taste of the bath tub crap people were making and selling.

Now back to abusing alcohol. ...I drink and sometimes I drink too much.  Hell I just went on vacation and got so drunk that I woke up feeling fine and did not realize I was still drunk until my hangover set in around 1pm.  Now doing that every night or every weekend for that matter is a problem.  That is my perspective and some may say drinking at any point to the point of being incoherent drunk is a problem.   I choose to get stooopid drunk when I am not driving and around people I trust.  I personally think alcohol is worse for you than say smoking weed.  Let me rephrase and say all natural Marijuana that comes directly from a plant and into a pipe or whatever.   The problem with smoking weed is that it is illegal and not regulated.  Who knows if you are smoking something laced with whatever or who knows what else could happen since there is no oversight in regards to quality and sanitation of something people buy and put into their bodies.  If pot was legalized then it could be regulated and safer products could be guaranteed to consumers.

I know I went across alcohol on 2 different areas and then jumped on some legalize pot rant as well.  Sry for being all over the place but I have thought long and hard on these topics before and I feel the correlations are worth mentioning across all of these fronts at one time.