Buy it yes or no

Started by Swamplord99, April 05, 2015, 11:38:29 AM

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Swamplord99

I'm pondering over buying the budget deck bw warrior on mtgvault but i don't know if it will be good. Is it good?

Thetrufflehunter


Silent1236

I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.

Swamplord99

Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.
There is a burn one that looks good, maybe il get that one instead

Heats Flamesman

What format? If it's Legacy (or vintage but I doubt that) then budget besides Delver, Burn, and kind of Eggs doesn't really work, if it's modern or standard it might

Silent1236

Quote from: Swamplord99 on April 05, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.
There is a burn one that looks good, maybe il get that one instead

Burn is pretty good, but I personally just think it's boring to play. Totally just my play style, though.

Heats Flamesman

Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: Swamplord99 on April 05, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.
There is a burn one that looks good, maybe il get that one instead

Burn is pretty good, but I personally just think it's boring to play. Totally just my play style, though.
Yeah, it's really easy. A pretty beginner deck when starting/switching formats.

griffin131

I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.

Heats Flamesman

Quote from: griffin131 on April 05, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.
Comparatively? In formats like legacy, it is easy.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: griffin131 on April 05, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.
It is a relatively easy deck to play, the only complexities spring from sequencing. Its a deck where the win rate between a novice and a master is quite close, and matchups are many times decided by opponent preparedness. Aggro is more complex because it offers a lot more decision trees, and control (depending upon the format and build) is also more complex. Deck difficulty should be measured by the spread between a novice's win rate and a master, and I guarantee the spread for Miracles or even Jund is higher than it is for burn

Dsx Cherno

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 05, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on April 05, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.
It is a relatively easy deck to play, the only complexities spring from sequencing. Its a deck where the win rate between a novice and a master is quite close, and matchups are many times decided by opponent preparedness. Aggro is more complex because it offers a lot more decision trees, and control (depending upon the format and build) is also more complex. Deck difficulty should be measured by the spread between a novice's win rate and a master, and I guarantee the spread for Miracles or even Jund is higher than it is for burn

Well said, sir

General Kiwi

If your buying for fun go crazy if it is to be competitive I would pass and look at other decks. Warriors in what I assume standard look good on paper but they are often lacking against the bigger match ups.

Dsx Cherno

Quote from: General Kiwi on April 06, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
If your buying for fun go crazy if it is to be competitive I would pass and look at other decks. Warriors in what I assume standard look good on paper but they are often lacking against the bigger match ups.

A guy at my LGS went 4-1 on a BW warrior deck standard. And he didn't even have some of the major heavy hitters either. One he got out a couple {chief of the edge}, it was game over. Most his guys had deathtouch, and he had the "warriors can be blocked by only 2 or more creatures". His one loss was from RDW, and all the games were very close.

General Kiwi

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 06, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
Quote from: General Kiwi on April 06, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
If your buying for fun go crazy if it is to be competitive I would pass and look at other decks. Warriors in what I assume standard look good on paper but they are often lacking against the bigger match ups.

A guy at my LGS went 4-1 on a BW warrior deck standard. And he didn't even have some of the major heavy hitters either. One he got out a couple {chief of the edge}, it was game over. Most his guys had deathtouch, and he had the "warriors can be blocked by only 2 or more creatures". His one loss was from RDW, and all the games were very close.
I wish I could have seen that

Dsx Cherno

He did great. Warriors can be played well, in competitive matchings.