allways "skip" combat phase (no venser)

Started by UNDIYINGBurrit0, May 15, 2012, 07:39:17 AM

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UNDIYINGBurrit0

{Gideon jura} + {Avacyn angel of hope}. Their Creatures stay tapped forever. Nuff said

Killin88

I feel mana being drained by the seconds thoughts good thoe

cltrn81

I don't think this works.  Gideon will still take damage on their turn even if he is indestructible, therefore his loyalty counters will be reduced and he will go to the GY.  An indestructible permanent is only saved by lethal damage to P/T but if an effect would reduce the P/T, or loyalty counters in this scenario, then it will go to the GY.

scarsabrex

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 15, 2012, 08:27:37 AM
I don't think this works.  Gideon will still take damage on their turn even if he is indestructible, therefore his loyalty counters will be reduced and he will go to the GY.  An indestructible permanent is only saved by lethal damage to P/T but if an effect would reduce the P/T, or loyalty counters in this scenario, then it will go to the GY.

this

BlackJester

306.8. Damage dealt to a planeswalker results in that many loyalty counters being removed from it.

306.9. If a planeswalker's loyalty is 0, it's put into its owner's graveyard. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704.)

This.

BadLuckIrish

so "prevent all damage enchanted creature is dealt" stop his loyalty from going down?

BlackJester

Quote from: BadLuckIrish on May 15, 2012, 11:41:08 AM
so "prevent all damage enchanted creature is dealt" stop his loyalty from going down?
Prevention will work, indestructibility won't. 

Maximo

Better off with {conjurer's closet} plus {stonehorn dignitary}.