Budgety Baby Zoo

DimirOverlord1300 · February 09, 2015, 12:31:09 PM

Agreed. Hunt master is more of a midrange card than an aggro card

Thetrufflehunter · February 09, 2015, 08:31:47 PM

Okay awesome. I'll update the list soon.

Thetrufflehunter · February 09, 2015, 11:50:08 PM

How does this deck protect against wipes? Sideboard?

Thetrufflehunter · February 10, 2015, 12:35:54 AM

{Rancor} and {Stormblood Berserker}?

Kaalia with haste · February 10, 2015, 08:49:36 AM

In starting to like this list more. I'd probably cut {flinthoof boar} 2 for a maybe 3/3 isn't very good and 3 for a maybe 3/3 with haste is awful.
I'd also take out either kird ape or loam lion, i find running one of them along side your wild nacatl is where you want to be in terms of one drops. I'd definitely add 4 boros charm and cut a hooting Mandrils (you don't have enough fetches) in favor of a 4th rampager. Storm blood berserker seems meh, you want your two drops to come down on turn 2 and unless you're able to land a hit with a nacatl or lion/ape on turn 2 it seems hard to get active, plus it's the last thing you want to draw on an empty board. I've no idea how well rancor would work, I've never tried it but it seems okay

Thetrufflehunter · February 10, 2015, 10:01:52 AM

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on February 10, 2015, 08:49:36 AM
In starting to like this list more. I'd probably cut {flinthoof boar} 2 for a maybe 3/3 isn't very good and 3 for a maybe 3/3 with haste is awful.
I'd also take out either kird ape or loam lion, i find running one of them along side your wild nacatl is where you want to be in terms of one drops. I'd definitely add 4 boros charm and cut a hooting Mandrils (you don't have enough fetches) in favor of a 4th rampager. Storm blood berserker seems meh, you want your two drops to come down on turn 2 and unless you're able to land a hit with a nacatl or lion/ape on turn 2 it seems hard to get active, plus it's the last thing you want to draw on an empty board. I've no idea how well rancor would work, I've never tried it but it seems okay

This list is just red green now. I'll update asap.

the_intelligentleman · February 10, 2015, 01:29:01 PM

Scooze seems good.

Kaalia with haste · February 10, 2015, 01:59:34 PM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 10, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
Scooze seems good.

It seems a bit slow for an aggro deck, it fits better in a midrange or toolbox shell

the_intelligentleman · February 10, 2015, 02:06:03 PM

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on February 10, 2015, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 10, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
Scooze seems good.
It seems a bit slow for an aggro deck, it fits better in a midrange or toolbox shell

I actually disagree. A grizzly bear for two mana that progressively gets bigger, and deals with graveyard decks, is fine in zoo. It's even better in two color zoo.

DimirOverlord1300 · February 10, 2015, 02:19:19 PM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 10, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on February 10, 2015, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 10, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
Scooze seems good.
It seems a bit slow for an aggro deck, it fits better in a midrange or toolbox shell
I actually disagree. A grizzly bear for two mana that progressively gets bigger, and deals with graveyard decks, is fine in zoo. It's even better in two color zoo.

I mean the whole point of zoo is to be blazing fast. Scooze is better for kill your thing, hand disruption, drop a threat type decks whereas this deck just wants to drop a billion moderately sized things quickly and kill your opponent before they can say damnation

Kaalia with haste · February 10, 2015, 02:20:03 PM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 10, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on February 10, 2015, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 10, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
Scooze seems good.
It seems a bit slow for an aggro deck, it fits better in a midrange or toolbox shell
I actually disagree. A grizzly bear for two mana that progressively gets bigger, and deals with graveyard decks, is fine in zoo. It's even better in two color zoo.

If there were infinite creatures in graveyards I would agree with you, but by the time scooze is more than a 4 mana 4/4 that gained you 2 life, they're dead. I'd rather just play qasali pridemage and I really don't like pridemage in zoo.

Thetrufflehunter · February 11, 2015, 10:08:32 PM

Updated. Cut the white. WHAT THE HECK DO I DO FOR SIDEBOARD TECH?

the_intelligentleman · February 12, 2015, 08:09:10 AM

I would usually say blood moon, but idk if this list even has a problem with it..

Kaalia with haste · February 12, 2015, 08:29:23 AM

Without white your SB options are pretty limited (no aven mindcensor, gaddock teeg, chained to the rocks, or eidolon of rhetoric) but here's a list if stuff off the top of my head/stolen from mtgtop8

Choke (pretty obvious when to bring this baby in)

Dismember (I guess this comes in against decks like infect and decks with rhino?)

Torpor orb (twin)

Dryad arbor (decks with Lili, so you can fetch the arbor in response to the minus 2 and sac that instead of your threat(s) )

Destructive revelry (decks with good artifacts or enchantment that help their game go smoother)

If you were to add white you get these:

Eidolon of rhetoric

Spirit of the labyrinth

Kataki, war's wage

Seeker of the way

Aven mindcensor

Gaddock teeg

Chained to the rocks

Plus these MB:

Boros charm

Lightning helix

Path to exile

Wild nacatl gets better

Loam lion

I'm a little biased towards adding white, haha.

Thetrufflehunter · February 12, 2015, 10:44:26 AM

Thoughts on {bloodhall ooze} over {Stormblood berserker}?