God interaction

Started by DirtyMustachio, January 30, 2015, 03:36:08 PM

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DirtyMustachio

okay got a weird one for ya

{lightform} is like a weird form of {gift of orzhov}
I was wondering what would happen if it hit a god with manifest

Rather I guess this is more of a manifest interaction question with gods like {iroas god of victory}

So I don't know exactly how the game checks but I don't really know if gods are counted as creatures in your hand, I know they check on being cast to see if they meet the devotion check, but when it's manifest is it facedown enchantment or creature? And can you only morph it face up if devotion is met or is it lost completely if it gets manifested ?

DirtyMustachio

That last part was what I was confused about, thanks llama!

Remillo

To confirm with the comp rules -

701.31b Any time you have priority, you may turn a manifested permanent you control face up. This is a special action that doesn't use the stack (see rule 115.2b). To do this, show all players that the card representing that permanent is a creature card and what that card's mana cost is, pay that cost, then turn the permanent face up. The effect defining its characteristics while it was face down ends, and it regains its normal characteristics. (If the card representing that permanent isn't a creature card or it doesn't have a mana cost, it can't be turned face up this way.)

Manifest only cares that it's a creature card, not that it's actually a creature.  If a face-down God is your only creature, you can still flip it face-up.