Ban List Update

[Brawler_1337]

How the hell did {Jeskai Ascendancy} and {Glittering Wish} evade a ban?! They weren't even addressed.

Because Ascendancy turned out to not be good enough. It's a powerful card, but it's not Treasure Cruise.

And Glittering Wish? That card shouldn't be banned to nerf Ascendancy decks. It's actually an interesting card that has potential. Jeskai Ascendancy, on the other hand, is nothing but a combo card.

But now that Cruise and Dig are gone, Ascendancy won't be as powerful.

[MuggyWuggy]

😂😂😂😂😂
TC = Power level of black lotus

[the_intelligentleman]

😂😂😂😂😂
TC = Power level of black lotus

We can say we lived through the reprint of {Ancestral Recall}. And as a common!

[LinkCelestrial]

How the hell did {Jeskai Ascendancy} and {Glittering Wish} evade a ban?! They weren't even addressed.

Because Ascendancy turned out to not be good enough. It's a powerful card, but it's not Treasure Cruise.

And Glittering Wish? That card shouldn't be banned to nerf Ascendancy decks. It's actually an interesting card that has potential. Jeskai Ascendancy, on the other hand, is nothing but a combo card.

But now that Cruise and Dig are gone, Ascendancy won't be as powerful.

I see. I thought they'd ban {Glittering Wish} because it's an enabler as opposed to destroying a whole archtype. Didn't they have a thing about how that's what they were going to do from now on?

[LinkCelestrial]

TC was banned in legacy

And restricted in Vintage

I worded that poorly, why did they ban/restrict TC and not DTT for Legacy/Vintage when they had reasoning on both for Modern?

[Cender]

TC was banned in legacyY

And restricted in Vintage

I worded that poorly, why did they ban/restrict TC and not DTT for Legacy/Vintage when they had reasoning on both for Modern?

The logic doesn't really cross over as the formats get older. The difference between {U} and {U}{U} is a lot larger in the older formats. DTT sees play but not in the same way TC is an auto include for any blue deck.

[Remillo]

TC was banned in legacyY

And restricted in Vintage

I worded that poorly, why did they ban/restrict TC and not DTT for Legacy/Vintage when they had reasoning on both for Modern?

The logic doesn't really cross over as the formats get older. The difference between {U} and {U}{U} is a lot larger in the older formats. DTT sees play but not in the same way TC is an auto include for any blue deck.

The filtering DTT provides is great for Combo decks when you're looking for specific pieces.  It digs deep and grabs you two cards from a selection.  Cruise saw play because it provides insane, raw card advantage for the measly price of U.  The difference is the decks they go in.  Aggro/Tempo (Delver) can afford to play Cruise to get raw advantage for U, because it doesn't necessarily care about the card Quality, only the Quantity (not to mention two mana is much more precious than one).  It can't afford to play Dig because it grabs one less card for one more mana, even if it's at Instant Speed.  Combo/Control would rather play DTT because it goes for Quality and digs for combo pieces.  In Legacy, TC and DTT are as different as Jace the Mind Sculptor and Gaea's Cradle.  Both insanely power cards, but pretty bad in the decks the other one goes in.

[AstroGeek327]

I was kinda sad about Pod but everything else was fine. Especially Treasure Cruise, I hold a very personal grudge against that stupid card.

[LinkCelestrial]

TC was banned in legacyY

And restricted in Vintage

I worded that poorly, why did they ban/restrict TC and not DTT for Legacy/Vintage when they had reasoning on both for Modern?

The logic doesn't really cross over as the formats get older. The difference between {U} and {U}{U} is a lot larger in the older formats. DTT sees play but not in the same way TC is an auto include for any blue deck.

The filtering DTT provides is great for Combo decks when you're looking for specific pieces.  It digs deep and grabs you two cards from a selection.  Cruise saw play because it provides insane, raw card advantage for the measly price of U.  The difference is the decks they go in.  Aggro/Tempo (Delver) can afford to play Cruise to get raw advantage for U, because it doesn't necessarily care about the card Quality, only the Quantity (not to mention two mana is much more precious than one).  It can't afford to play Dig because it grabs one less card for one more mana, even if it's at Instant Speed.  Combo/Control would rather play DTT because it goes for Quality and digs for combo pieces.  In Legacy, TC and DTT are as different as Jace the Mind Sculptor and Gaea's Cradle.  Both insanely power cards, but pretty bad in the decks the other one goes in.

I understand what you're saying. Being as I don't play anything other than Modern, Standard and EDH it makes sense.