Reserved list

[Rass]

reprint or not reprint.

Why?

[cltrn81]

No

Reasons

[cltrn81]

Lol I will expand later

[MuggyWuggy]

No.

Suck it up and pay 2 life for shocks lands to come in untapped

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Yes, eventually legacy and vintage will get to the point where it only exists online. Promises are cute, but everyone has admitted it was a mistake, and I think it will be gotten rid of within a decade. Standard players lose hundreds a year, but when someone brings up reprinting a legacy staple, everyone cries foul, it's BS. This is a game, you're holding cardboard, don't complain when your cardboard isn't worth $10,000.

[MuggyWuggy]

Well that's why you don't invest in things not on the list

[Ekann1]

It's not an investment, it's a card game... Go play stocks somewhere else 😜

[fj76ts4]

I'm not going to commit to spending 300 on a volcanic island if it'll just be reprinted and have a value plummet.

Lots of people don't even play legacy/vintage when it's affordable. (See mtgo)

Don't throw a hissy fit if something isn't immediately in your budget that isn't actually played that much.

I bought my duals on the expectation that if I need the money I can sell them and get my money back. It wasn't an investment, I just expect to not lose $1000+ overnight.

someone on reddit suggested that wizards abolish the reserved list and also offer to buy high value cards on the reserve list at a reasonable price, i think this would be an okay solution

[cltrn81]

The different formats were made for a reason.  If you play standard and do not have a care to enter legacy or vintage then why would you even care what happens to these cards?  They will never reprint those cards in standard even if they decided to do any type of reprint.

Now here is what I think they may do and "MAY" is the operative word.  So allow me to preface by asking what format other then legacy/vintage plays these cards and is driving demand on them?  Obviously EDH/Commander is the answer here.  So what I think is a possibility....they reprint the dual lands and some other commander staples from those old sets that are worth a ton and make them not legal for Legacy/Vintage tournaments.

The only other thing I think they could do is to make another International Collectors set that are also not legal for tournament play.

For the record....I am not for reprinting anything on the reserve list if the reprinted cards will be tournament legal.  I think people on both sides of the fence would be happy with either of those two scenarios I presented.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

It is ridiculous to expect most people to just be able to spend $3000 on a legacy deck. WoTC has shown that they don't like the reserved list, they have tried to eliminate it before, and they have shown willingness to reprint $100+ cards, it really just is a manner of time. There are no solid legal restrictions against it, and people who claim breaking a promise would ruin their reputation are hilarious, because it would not keep people from buying, WotC would finally start making money from legacy/vintage, and they would please 95% of their player base. Even most major companies like SCG want the reserved list gone, they will likely make another attempt at doing away with it in the next few years.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Second post: Another problem with the high value of legacy staples is the emergence of fakes on the market. There are now fakes that pass every test but the rip test (which of course would never be done). Wizards is not going to want this because it basically screws them, so I would not be surprised if WotC got another meeting together to talk about reprinting the staples if for no other reason than to deter fakes.

[Ekann1]

I like the not tournament legal idea at least...

[MuggyWuggy]

Just buy CE gold border cards for EDH and alter them. No one looks at the backs of your cards unless you have clear sleeves

[cltrn81]

Just buy CE gold border cards for EDH and alter them. No one looks at the backs of your cards unless you have clear sleeves

That is what I have done in the past but I tell people they are proxies.  I just sharpie the boarder black.  I am running an {academy rector} that way in my EDH deck until I can get a legit one.

[Falcon182]

It is ridiculous to expect most people to just be able to spend $3000 on a legacy deck. WoTC has shown that they don't like the reserved list, they have tried to eliminate it before, and they have shown willingness to reprint $100+ cards, it really just is a manner of time. There are no solid legal restrictions against it, and people who claim breaking a promise would ruin their reputation are hilarious, because it would not keep people from buying, WotC would finally start making money from legacy/vintage, and they would please 95% of their player base. Even most major companies like SCG want the reserved list gone, they will likely make another attempt at doing away with it in the next few years.

Nobody "expects" anyone to make a $3000 legacy deck. If you want to, do it. If you think the cards are too expensive then maybe legacy isn't for you (or the hypothetical you). Anyway, there are tons of budget legacy decks that perform well that cost less than a standard deck.

Standard is the racket here... Cards reaching $30-50 that go down to $4 when they rotate after 18 months is just ridiculous.