Nekusar, the Mindrazer

Started by cltrn81, September 01, 2014, 08:25:19 PM

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Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds


cltrn81


Kaalia with haste

Quote from: cltrn81 on December 18, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 18, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
{Archmage Ascension}
I like this suggestion
Trust me on this one man, archmage ascension will never get online. It's effect is so hard to get online, it can't happen Until like turn 9 and by then it'll eat a removal spell and it doesn't actually win you the game it comes close but doesn't do it.

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 18, 2014, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on December 18, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 18, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
{Archmage Ascension}
I like this suggestion
Trust me on this one man, archmage ascension will never get online. It's effect is so hard to get online, it can't happen Until like turn 9 and by then it'll eat a removal spell and it doesn't actually win you the game it comes close but doesn't do it.
But remember it triggers on any end steps

DimirOverlord1300

Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on December 18, 2014, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 18, 2014, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on December 18, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 18, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
{Archmage Ascension}
I like this suggestion
Trust me on this one man, archmage ascension will never get online. It's effect is so hard to get online, it can't happen Until like turn 9 and by then it'll eat a removal spell and it doesn't actually win you the game it comes close but doesn't do it.
But remember it triggers on any end steps
It still never happens. It'll die before you get it online. I've played it before and it's really bad

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on December 18, 2014, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 18, 2014, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on December 18, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 18, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
{Archmage Ascension}
I like this suggestion
Trust me on this one man, archmage ascension will never get online. It's effect is so hard to get online, it can't happen Until like turn 9 and by then it'll eat a removal spell and it doesn't actually win you the game it comes close but doesn't do it.
But remember it triggers on any end steps
Ok so maybe turn 6-7 if you manage to use your ponders and brainstorms on your opponents turn. It's still WAY too slow

Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds

If you have the right things in play, you may be drawing 2 cards on other players turns so the ability may get off faster. Especially with  {Notion Thief}.

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 18, 2014, 10:17:49 PM
If you have the right things in play, you may be drawing 2 cards on other players turns so the ability may get off faster. Especially with  {Notion Thief}.
As a general rule of thumb, if the combo piece is bad outside of the combo and the other combo piece isnt your commander, don't put it in.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: cltrn81 on September 01, 2014, 08:36:34 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 01, 2014, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 01, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
My first attempt at a commander deck.

Awesome. Now:
- {Ral Zarek}
+ {Dack Fayden}
I actually had Dack in this but I just don't see why he is that great.  His ultimate is useless in this deck.  I suppose his -2 is very relevant in commander?  But yea I forgot how helpful his +1 is in this build.

Did somebody correct this? +1 target another player shock them. That's why Dack Fayden is amazing in Nekusar.

Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 19, 2014, 07:18:09 AM
Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 18, 2014, 10:17:49 PM
If you have the right things in play, you may be drawing 2 cards on other players turns so the ability may get off faster. Especially with  {Notion Thief}.
As a general rule of thumb, if the combo piece is bad outside of the combo and the other combo piece isnt your commander, don't put it in.
{Notion Thief} is good with Nekusar given the right circumstances. It's a great way to steal the extra draw each players turn and a good combo piece with things similar to {Wheel of Fortune} so you can slow the .Fling. out of your opponents without having to hit them all individually with {Nicol Bolas}. Some decks actually don't even use the generals outside of the need for that colour combination.

DimirOverlord1300


Drgnwr1

#41
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on December 22, 2014, 12:46:10 AM
{Hive Mind} is awesome

{Hive Mind} and  {Forced Fruition}? Even though it's been suggested already. Just that interaction!

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 22, 2014, 12:34:37 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 19, 2014, 07:18:09 AM
Quote from: Gadnuk, Breaker of Worlds on December 18, 2014, 10:17:49 PM
If you have the right things in play, you may be drawing 2 cards on other players turns so the ability may get off faster. Especially with  {Notion Thief}.
As a general rule of thumb, if the combo piece is bad outside of the combo and the other combo piece isnt your commander, don't put it in.
{Notion Thief} is good with Nekusar given the right circumstances. It's a great way to steal the extra draw each players turn and a good combo piece with things similar to {Wheel of Fortune} so you can slow the .Fling. out of your opponents without having to hit them all individually with {Nicol Bolas}. Some decks actually don't even use the generals outside of the need for that colour combination.
{Notion thief} has had many a discussion over on mtgsal in the Nekusar thread. Most people, including myself, do not run it as it's effect is not optional. If you aren't keeping track on how many cards are left in your deck, once you put down 2 or more consecative wheels, you may just wind up decking yourself.
{Forced Fruition} is another that most competitive people will not play, simply because if you do not kill them with that, they more than likely will kill you next turn.
But that's the beauty of Nekusar. There are so many ways to build him depending on your play style.

theravenseye

#43
Have you tried {Dream Halls} + {Vampiric Tutor} or {Deciever Exarch} + {Splintertwin}? Search all four with {Gifts Ungiven} and yiu get two wincons.

Just throw in a {Yawgmoth's Will}

cltrn81

I am running {forced fruition} already.  I agree that cards like it and {bloodchief ascension} will make you a target but that is why I am running {collective restraint}, {propaganda}, {sudden spoiling}, and {aetherspouts} just to name some.