Grixis Sac Control

Started by Mattacheu, November 04, 2014, 12:35:53 AM

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Mattacheu


Grixis Sac Control

60 cards, 0 sideboard


4 {Grixis Panorama}
2 {Blood Crypt}
2 {Watery Grave}
2 {Steam Vents}
4 {Crumbling Necropolis}
2 {Island}
2 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
2 {Polluted Delta}
2 {Mountain}
2 {Swamp}

24 lands


2 {Prince of Thralls}
2 {Jalira, Master Polymorphist}
4 {Bazaar Trader}

8 creatures


4 {Act of Treason}
2 {Cruel Ultimatum}
2 {Control Magic}
2 {Attrition}
3 {Dark Ritual}
3 {Mark of Mutiny}
2 {Dictate of Erebos}
3 {Breaking // Entering}
2 {Culling Dais}
4 {Animate Dead}
1 {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}

28 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
First attempt at a grixis sac and control (obviously still need lands, do that once I'm done with the spells) and I'm wondering if I did okay. Mostly get jalira on board, search for prince of thralls, and have fun watching people suffer? Still iffy on the build.

Spikepit

That actually looks pretty good! I saw the first version earlier and this is much better! Looks pretty good!

Can I suggest, for mana curve, minus two {Volition Reigns}, for an {Act of Aggression}? Could be fun!

How about {Fallen Angel}?

Mattacheu

Changed from violiton to aggression :) and thank you, was unsure if it would look okay. And the thing is, I have no clue what to take out, as it seems like I have a right amount of everything....maybe use jalira's ability more, get a couple high drop creatures in there with useful abilities?
Edit; thought about it, and abusing jalira's ability has a place in another deck based around it, so I won't here. What I have should be fine.

Ekann1

Yeah 4 Jalira seems a bit much in a deck with 8 creatures, no matter how many you steal.

Ekann1


Ekann1

Or whatever the 4 mana one is that does the exact same thing.

Mattacheu

Would you say those over vilolition? Or add it into the deck? And took out two jalira for two desecration demons. Made sense to me.

cltrn81

Quote from: E.kann1 on November 04, 2014, 07:14:27 AM
Or whatever the 4 mana one is that does the exact same thing.
{control magic}
Ole school

Ekann1

Quote from: cltrn81 on November 04, 2014, 08:11:43 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 04, 2014, 07:14:27 AM
Or whatever the 4 mana one is that does the exact same thing.
{control magic}
Ole school
Yep, that's what I was thinking of.

particle

{grave pact}, {dicate of erebos}, and/or {butcher of malakir}.

Mattacheu

I really like this deck, but it's inconsistent like no one would believe. I have played it over 10 times, have only really hit it off once. Need help in making it more consistent, or even just faster.

LinkCelestrial

I have a similar deck but I just run {B}/{R}. It's very fun and does extremely well against almost all creature based strategies. I've found my main issue is decks that produce lots of small creatures and overrun, or decks that just don't play anything that I can steal. Here are some suggestions,

{Bloodflow Connoisseur}: I dare say one of the best sac outlets ever, cause it costs nothing and it gives a permanent buff. Three mana is steep for a 1/1, but the ability makes up for it. Don't forget that if one of your things is gonna die you can sac it to her!

{Culling Dias}: I used to run {Altar's Reap} for card draw but I found that this works much better. Also, all the mana it requires is colorless which is quite relevant in a three color build.

{Bazaar Trader}: Don't just take it. Keep it.

{Champion of Stray Souls}: I haven't messed around with it in my build, but it seems like it'd fit yours quite well.

{Grave Pact}/{Dictate of Erebos}/{Butcher of Malakir}: I run {Dictate of Erebos} in my deck and it is /amaze/. Two for oneing whenever you grab and sac one of their things is great. It can also become a mini-board wipe with effects like {Bloodflow Connoisseur}.

{Conquering Manticore}: {Act of Treason} + 5/5 flyer. For six mana? Not bad. Not bad at all. It also puts anybody that you can keep off the board or that decides to hold creatures on a short clock.

{Harness by Force}: One of the best cards in my sac and grab deck. I don't know if the intensive red symbols are manageable in this deck but it's worth a shot, no?

{Mark of Mutiny}: Generally strictly better than {Act of Treason} as you're going to kill or keep whatever you're grabbing.

{Slave of Bolas}: Everything you're trying to do all printed in one card. Plus you're running Bolas himself so flavor.

{Spinal Embrace}: It's weird but it could be good. Maybe, idk.   

{Smelt-Ward Gatekeepers}: If you changed up your manabase it could work. I'd also look into more than 20 lands cause that seems really low for this style of deck. Mine runs 24 and I still feel like it could use more sometimes.

{Furnace Celebration}: I think it's too slow but I run it anyways.

And now for what I'd look at cutting and stuff,

{Whip of Erebos}: Seems kinda iffy in this build. I mean, lifelink yay, but the reanimation effect seems kinda useless with eight creatures. Even if you do run more I still would be quite critical on this card.

{Volition Reins}: I don't think I like it. Too much mana for an effect that isn't technically necessary in this deck. {Control Magic} is kinda better. I might fill the slot with something like {Clever Impersonator} instead. Or another {Act of Treason} effect.

{Attrition}: While this is a sick card I don't think it's a four of. You don't want to draw more than one, as it's redundant to have two on the field. I'd cut it down to a two of and see what happens.

{Countersqual}: I think I understand why this is here, in which case I'd probably bump up the numbers if I was you.

{Dreadbore}: I don't know if you really need this. Unless your meta has lots of Planeswalkers I'd cut it.

{Lightning Bolt}: It doesn't fit the theme. Though it's just such a sweet card...I'd probably cut it for something else.

{Prince of Thralls}: What really? Yes, and for one reason and one reason only. "an opponent controls." You're most likely going to be controlling whatever dies, no?


Mattacheu

Thank you so incredibly much. This helped so much, but i still wanna stick with the jalira into prince, as it's worked for me the one time, and It made me incredibly happy.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Mattacheu on December 12, 2014, 10:54:11 PM
Thank you so incredibly much. This helped so much, but i still wanna stick with the jalira into prince, as it's worked for me the one time, and It made me incredibly happy.

Fair enough. :P Glad I could be of use. ^_^

Kaylesh

I agree, the prince combos nicely with the Erebos too. Setting up a nice chain reaction where you can wipe their board.