Question of logic

Started by MuggyWuggy, December 04, 2014, 11:04:09 AM

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Gorzo

True, that might be a biased and unreliable source.  rightwingnews.com? That's bias right there in the domain name.  C'mon, tays, you know better than that! You wouldn't take an article posted by muggy seriously if it were from liberalmedia.com, would you?

But at least the point about the current media being a bunch of cherry-picking, flame-stoking idiots is undeniable :)

Cender

I think we've agreed generally that it isn't the only issue, not that it isn't an issue.

MuggyWuggy

Yeah...race is still an issue when it comes to police brutality....

Ekann1

Quote from: Cender on December 08, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
I think we've agreed generally that it isn't the only issue, not that it isn't an issue.
So much this.


Wingnut

Idk if anyone listens to Glenn Beck or not, but he had a REALLY good show on this subject a few days ago. Whether your a fan or not, I feel like it's a show that both muggy AND Taysby could appreciate at the same time, if that's an imaginable situation.

MuggyWuggy

It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Wingnut

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on December 10, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Muggy, I feel like the grand jury dropped the ball on this one. There should have been SOME kind of charge. Not even involuntary manslaughter? Come on. Unless there is evidence the jury saw that we are not, I don't agree with no charges.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on December 10, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Muggy, I feel like the grand jury dropped the ball on this one. There should have been SOME kind of charge. Not even involuntary manslaughter? Come on. Unless there is evidence the jury saw that we are not, I don't agree with no charges.
This. We should also really have a separate system for trying police officers.

Wingnut

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on December 10, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Muggy, I feel like the grand jury dropped the ball on this one. There should have been SOME kind of charge. Not even involuntary manslaughter? Come on. Unless there is evidence the jury saw that we are not, I don't agree with no charges.
This. We should also really have a separate system for trying police officers.

I would be down for this, but I don't feel it should be comprised of only other police officers, it should comprise SOME officers (current or retired), civilians, possibly older children (let's be real, they are un-tainted by media and still have a high level of moral). But I know the children thing wouldn't work.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on December 10, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Muggy, I feel like the grand jury dropped the ball on this one. There should have been SOME kind of charge. Not even involuntary manslaughter? Come on. Unless there is evidence the jury saw that we are not, I don't agree with no charges.
This. We should also really have a separate system for trying police officers.

I would be down for this, but I don't feel it should be comprised of only other police officers, it should comprise SOME officers (current or retired), civilians, possibly older children (let's be real, they are un-tainted by media and still have a high level of moral). But I know the children thing wouldn't work.
I think it should be inquisitorial, and appointed, to keep it free from .politics. and media intervention.

Wingnut

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2014, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on December 10, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Muggy, I feel like the grand jury dropped the ball on this one. There should have been SOME kind of charge. Not even involuntary manslaughter? Come on. Unless there is evidence the jury saw that we are not, I don't agree with no charges.
This. We should also really have a separate system for trying police officers.

I would be down for this, but I don't feel it should be comprised of only other police officers, it should comprise SOME officers (current or retired), civilians, possibly older children (let's be real, they are un-tainted by media and still have a high level of moral). But I know the children thing wouldn't work.
I think it should be inquisitorial, and appointed, to keep it free from .politics. and media intervention.

Fair enough, just simply unbiased. But in theory, isn't that what we "have"?

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 11:22:46 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2014, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on December 10, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Muggy, I feel like the grand jury dropped the ball on this one. There should have been SOME kind of charge. Not even involuntary manslaughter? Come on. Unless there is evidence the jury saw that we are not, I don't agree with no charges.
This. We should also really have a separate system for trying police officers.

I would be down for this, but I don't feel it should be comprised of only other police officers, it should comprise SOME officers (current or retired), civilians, possibly older children (let's be real, they are un-tainted by media and still have a high level of moral). But I know the children thing wouldn't work.
I think it should be inquisitorial, and appointed, to keep it free from .politics. and media intervention.

Fair enough, just simply unbiased. But in theory, isn't that what we "have"?
Inquisitorial is when a judge does all of the investigating and decision making, it's the form they use in Europe. We would one unbiased (hopefully) judge looking into the case privately instead of a media circus.

NovusOrbis

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on December 10, 2014, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on December 10, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
It's ok keep believing nothing wrong happened

Muggy, I feel like the grand jury dropped the ball on this one. There should have been SOME kind of charge. Not even involuntary manslaughter? Come on. Unless there is evidence the jury saw that we are not, I don't agree with no charges.
This. We should also really have a separate system for trying police officers.
But would a separate system really be fair for everyone else? This idea sounds good on paper, but it would kind of go against the right to a fair and speedy trail amongst a jury of your peers.
Plus, there's probably no way we could possibly find a judge who doesn't watch tv.

MuggyWuggy

Yeah well...clearly these last few cases have been flop sided when going to trial.

There needs to be an actual punishment for cops found crossing the line of what is justified.

Not a slap on the wrist and a paid vacation for 6 months