Question of logic

[the_intelligentleman]

Liberal is the farthest thing from my stance. Nyc made it ILLEGAL for their polic to use choke holds, that right there is what's the issue. Not race, police using excessive force all over the damn country is the issue. Also don't assume people's ideologies because you still are finding yours kid, some of us are much older and even younger ones are wiser than you tays. I get it your 18 and know how everything works, but sadly you don't. Wait till your out of your twenties and your political views will change.

I haven't seen the video, but was the guy fighting back, or did he just sit there and the cop kept choking him.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I'd say take him to court about the choke-hold, but not for manslaughter because that wasn't his intent.

Manslaughter: "the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought"

So what you are saying is we shouldn't charge him with manslaughter, even though it is manslaughter, because he didn't murder him?

[Distriimuir]

Liberal is the farthest thing from my stance. Nyc made it ILLEGAL for their polic to use choke holds, that right there is what's the issue. Not race, police using excessive force all over the damn country is the issue. Also don't assume people's ideologies because you still are finding yours kid, some of us are much older and even younger ones are wiser than you tays. I get it your 18 and know how everything works, but sadly you don't. Wait till your out of your twenties and your political views will change.

I haven't seen the video, but was the guy fighting back, or did he just sit there and the cop kept choking him.

He didn't start "resisting", if you call it that, till they started grabbing him and throwing him around for not "complying " with questions. It's bs.

[Cender]

 Anytime anyone throws "uneducated liberal" or similar name-calling into their argument about anything completely invalidates any and all points they may have made.

Arguments can be made without mudslinging and generalizing anyone who disagrees with you.

[Rass]

Arguments can be made without mudslinging and generalizing anyone who disagrees with you.

So true. Keep rational dialogue. You guys may not agree but keeping the conversation going might help others understand.

[MuggyWuggy]

If you watch the video he has his hands up saying, "don't touch me, I didn't do anything"

The officer in question reaches behind Garner and throws him in an illegal choke hold as the other officers swam and attempt to cuff garner.

Someone ended up dead over supposed illegal sales of cigarettes. There's something wrong there and law enforcement should be accountable for misconduct, not all cops are bad, but bad cops are awful and a parasite on our society. This is not a left or right issue, sadly some people are raised to believe it is some sort of contest rather than understand the state humanity is in

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Totally not a race issue whatsoever. That's the thing...   it always gets turned into one the first chance it can ever get

All I've been hearing on the news is "White cop shoots unarmed black man" "America has racist cops" etc.

When black teens are 21x more likely to be killed by an officer than whites, its fair to say that race is a factor. Racial stereotyping is what compels these officers to react to the situation the way they do, whether it be conscious or subconscious.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Totally not a race issue whatsoever. That's the thing...   it always gets turned into one the first chance it can ever get

All I've been hearing on the news is "White cop shoots unarmed black man" "America has racist cops" etc.

When black teens are 21x more likely to be killed by an officer than whites, its fair to say that race is a factor. Racial stereotyping is what compels these officers to react to the situation the way they do, whether it be conscious or subconscious.

Blacks tend to be poorer than whites.  Poor people tend to commit more crime than people with enough money.  Therefore, the police patrol those neighborhoods.  It has nothing to do with race, just facts.

So because of white privilege, black teens should be shot? Makes sense...

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

At this point its a case of fool me once, shame on you. Fool me tens of thousands of times, and you are a .loving. idiot for still denying the facts.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

Im going to start my sentence with 'I believe...' because thats all it is. My opinion...

I believe that Taysby has made some valid points. And everyone else has too. However, what this does not call for is people saying 'These things happened, therefore it is a clear case of this'. Those are not all the facts, nor can 'this' be the only possible inference that can be made, nor is any of it clear cut. Having opinions is fine, but preaching is not ok unless all the facts are there, and what you are preaching makes logical sense. Otherwise all it leads to is arguments and personal attacks, which is not ok.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

White privilege is a hoax.  Whoever turns to crime more will get shot more.  Blacks tend to turn to crime more because they tend to be poorer.  I don't see the problem

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!? You literally typed the .loving. problem and yet you can't find it!?!? White privilege is the fact the whites tend to be better off economically and have a leg up in society because of this.

[Millionlittlee]

I'm just going to say
A lot of the black people I know tend to put them selfs down with racism.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I'm just going to say
A lot of the black people I know tend to put them selfs down with racism.

Yes, some people like to milk it, but he fact remains that it is harder to be a black person in America than it is to be white

[Millionlittlee]

I'm just going to say
A lot of the black people I know tend to put them selfs down with racism.

Yes, some people like to milk it, but he fact remains that it is harder to be a black person in America than it is to be white

While this MAY be true we cannot prove this unless a single person has been in both the whites position and the black position. But still MAY be true

[the_intelligentleman]

White privilege is a hoax.  Whoever turns to crime more will get shot more.  Blacks tend to turn to crime more because they tend to be poorer.  I don't see the problem

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!? You literally typed the .loving. problem and yet you can't find it!?!? White privilege is the fact the whites tend to be better off economically and have a leg up in society because of this.

Argus, if I could +1 you, I would.