Commander 2014 (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

Started by Dudecore, July 26, 2014, 05:09:24 PM

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Spikepit

I'm really keen to give the Kor/Soldier/Token/Equip a run! I haven't looked heavily into the others, but I feel the Mardu decks are the most cohesive.

Dudecore

Ob Nixilis planeswalker is ass. But Gisa is good, and it's got some kind of synergy. It at least IS a mono-black deck.

The red one is newish and exciting. Mono red is traditionally not a great EDH color so they pushed it pretty hard.

The white deck is straightforward, tons of room to upgrade and it's a simple archetype for players to build around.

Blue stinks.

I've spent almost no time reading the green one.

Spikepit

Same, I have no idea what's in the green. I did just preorder all five for AU 170, and I was happy to get the other 4 for that!

Mattao19

The Green Land Wrath is so OP and lame if you play it vs a 5 colour deck it's {Armageddon} that doesn't kill your lands ... It's pretty dumb if you ask me 

Dudecore

Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
The Green Land Wrath is so OP and lame if you play it vs a 5 colour deck it's {Armageddon} that doesn't kill your lands ... It's pretty dumb if you ask me

Isn't it just green {Jokulhaups}? The art is similar..

Mattao19

Quote from: Dudecore on November 01, 2014, 01:20:13 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
The Green Land Wrath is so OP and lame if you play it vs a 5 colour deck it's {Armageddon} that doesn't kill your lands ... It's pretty dumb if you ask me

Isn't it just green {Jokulhaups}? The art is similar..

True .. BUT then you get basics into play. If you're playing 3+ colour EDH you run like 5 non basics and this just kills you

Dudecore

Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 01:22:31 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 01, 2014, 01:20:13 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
The Green Land Wrath is so OP and lame if you play it vs a 5 colour deck it's {Armageddon} that doesn't kill your lands ... It's pretty dumb if you ask me

Isn't it just green {Jokulhaups}? The art is similar..

True .. BUT then you get basics into play. If you're playing 3+ colour EDH you run like 5 non basics and this just kills you

That'd fall squarely in the catagory of "poor deck design". It doesnt say you can never play lands again...it's worse then {Armageddon} or {Jokulhaups} even.

Mattao19

Not really if I'm playing 5 colour why would I ever want more than 5 basics? You need to hit dbl. {B} then dbl {W} then {U} {G} {R} so why wouldn't I run all the non basics?

Mattao19

Look at Taysbys 3 colour Narset deck it runs 4 basics ... And that's 3 colour!!

Remillo

That's just the nature of running a mana-greedy deck.  The more non-basics you decide to play, the more you open yourself up to being blown out by {Price of Progress}, {Back to Basics}, {Ruination} and the like.  Playing lands that produce multiple colors is both a luxury and a risk.  There has to be a drawback, and being prone to more land hate is certainly a big one.  Otherwise, 5-color goodstuff with perfect mana bases would be absolutely everywhere.

Dudecore

Quote from: Remillo on November 01, 2014, 02:46:24 AM
That's just the nature of running a mana-greedy deck.  The more non-basics you decide to play, the more you open yourself up to being blown out by {Price of Progress}, {Back to Basics}, {Ruination} and the like.  Playing lands that produce multiple colors is both a luxury and a risk.  There has to be a drawback, and being prone to more land hate is certainly a big one.  Otherwise, 5-color goodstuff with perfect mana bases would be absolutely everywhere.

Pretty much this. Punishing greedy mana bases is part of how the game works. Its why {Blood Moon} is so popular.