Monastery swiftspear. Thoughts?

Started by Kaalia with haste, September 29, 2014, 10:48:02 AM

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Kaalia with haste

The guy who just won the scg open compared it to tarmogoyf.. Thoughts?

Destore117


Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

I've been thinking about running it in a storm deck, it's definitely a very solid card. I don't know if I'd compare it to Tarmogoyf, but in a Delver deck, its quite close.

Edit: I wonder if it will replace {Seeker of the Way} in that Jeskai Tempo deck that is apparently the best thing now. (Standard)

Destore117

That card is just rude. Oh lemme just use these 2 {shocks} T2 and swing that's 7 damage to you.

Any questions?

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Destore117 on September 29, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
That card is just rude. Oh lemme just use these 2 {shocks} T2 and swing that's 7 damage to you.

Any questions?
You're thinking two small. {Lightning Bolt}!

Destore117

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 29, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on September 29, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
That card is just rude. Oh lemme just use these 2 {shocks} T2 and swing that's 7 damage to you.

Any questions?
You're thinking two small. {Lightning Bolt}!
Cipher would've been fun with Jeskai.

Dudecore

It is replacing {Goblin Guide} in some control lists because it doesn't give away tempo. U/R Delver list that won Legacy SCG Open New Jersey on Sunday runs it.

It basically does what you want a card to do in that spot. You can cast it, {Ponder}/{Brainstorm}, {Gitaxian Probe}, {Lightning Bolt} and swing with your own little {Tarmogoyf}. U/R Delver is already on that plan to begin with, this just slots right in and it's perfect. It's a logical progression. It also gives you something to do on the turns you're building {Young Pyromancer}.

Aladormax

This seems like it may be nuts in modern burn lists. T1 swift spear, t2 burn, etc run young pyro and laugh.

lotrwk

Quote from: Taysby on September 29, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
there are a lot of cards in this set that dont look that good but are amazing.  :P
Altar is bad

Destore117

Quote from: lotrwk on September 29, 2014, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Taysby on September 29, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
there are a lot of cards in this set that dont look that good but are amazing.  :P
Altar is bad

Not this again >.>

MuggyWuggy

I'm throwing 2 into my jeskai deck. We will see how it goes tonight or tomorrow

Dudecore

But who said {Monastery Swiftspear} was bad? It is a {Tarmogoyf} for Red, since those decks are casting those spells anyway {Ponder}, {Brainstorm}, {Gitaxian Probe} and others for {Young Pyromancer}. It's an absolute mirror-breaking card and a monster in its own right. It took absolutely no time to make an impact on Legacy, Modern will be a matter of time and Standard might have the deck for it already.

{Altar of the Brood} has a deck...it's one that makes infinite permanents, and it is worse then other cards that already exist. It's a dead draw mostly all of the time, it's merely serviceable in numbers but it doesn't draw you a card...so its mana cost is 1 too much.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

An update from Bob Huang (he's on MTGTheSource):
"So... I'm still working on my article for CFB, hopefully it will be out next week.

Just wanted to clarify a few things.

1. Monastery Swiftspear shall be henceforth called Taylor Swiftspear
2. My name for the deck is Viking Funeral. You have a bunch of humans, they go on a boat ride, and then they light themselves on fire and throw themselves at your opponent.
3. Another alternative name for the deck could be Zoo. Not sure if that's trademarked or anything, but yes, if you look closely, I pretty much just played Zoo to its first Legacy Open win in a long time. Every creature is in there purely for damage output. Sure, my Zoo deck had Ancestral Recall and FoW, but we Legacy players don't give a damn about splitting hairs now do we? "