EDH question

[Destore117]

In EDH if a commander deals 20 or more damage you win correct?

[Destore117]

21 or more to a single player from a single commander means they lose

Yes

Does this include non combat damage?
Curious for {Ruric Thar the Unbowed} cuz he seems like a pretty great commander.

[Destore117]

I'm gonna buy a giant eagle bag. Write nope in black marker and give you that. You can keep it. Big bag of nope.

[Mattao19]

All you need to do is wait for them to gain life and bam! Instant win

Lol damn you

Also worth noting you can die from your own commander lol {Karona the False God} can kill you lol happened to me more than I care to admit lol

[particle]

Yep, it's why people hate on {Heartless Hidetsugu}...

commander damage is only combat damage. many commanders would be totally broken if not like {kaervek the merciless}. let me grab a ruling.

from commander.net :

If a player has been dealt 21 points of combat damage by a particular Commander during the game, that player loses a game.


so {heartless hidetsugo} will not do commander damage if he activates his ability. when you draw cards with {nekusar, the mindrazer} on the field, you will not take commander damage, only normal damage.

[particle]

Yep, it's why people hate on {Heartless Hidetsugu}...

commander damage is only combat damage. many commanders would be totally broken if not like {kaervek the merciless}. let me grab a ruling.

Really???
Do you have a rule posting for that???

yea edited with ruling.

[Gorzo]

It is for sure combat damage only. People hate on Heartless Hidetsugu, but it has nothing to do with commander damage, it's just because he's a jerk

[particle]

Well that changes things

yea generally the only way to kill someone with commander damage is voltroning up.

[Gorzo]

Well that changes things

yea generally the only way to kill someone with commander damage is voltroning up.

21 adds up pretty quick. {Kresh the Bloodbraided} and {Grimgrin, Corpse-Born} both tend to get there in one swing, and there are lots of biggun's who get there in 3 hits like  {Maelstrom Wanderer} and {Zurgo Helmsmasher}

[particle]

Well that changes things

yea generally the only way to kill someone with commander damage is voltroning up.

21 adds up pretty quick. {Kresh the Bloodbraided} and {Grimgrin, Corpse-Born} both tend to get there in one swing, and there are lots of biggun's who get there in 3 hits like  {Maelstrom Wanderer} and {Zurgo Helmsmasher}

{raafiq of the many} also normally gets there in three turns if he attacks the same person.

[rarehuntertay]

And  {Vorosh, the Hunter}

[griffin131]

{Jenara, Asura of War} can get there really quickly as well.

[xStrayKnightx]

With all the boosting cards in my {Kaalia of the Vast} deck, I can push her from a 2/2 to a...

Something big. Hang on...
{Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite} = 4/4...
{Sword of Kaldra} = 9/9...
{Godsend} = 12/12...
{Ogre Battledriver} = 14/12...

Yeah, that's pretty good. XD

[Deathstorm]

I like ruhan and the godhead auras

[Spikepit]

My Norin Commander can ... do nothing but give me the giggles. 😁