Khans of Tarkir (Speculations and Spoilers)

[Dudecore]

Control seems fine. Plenty of new counter spells and removal. 5 mana board sweeper and tempo cards. It probably won't be nearly as good as turning stuff sideways, but it'll be there.

[Mattao19]

Control seems fine. Plenty of new counter spells and removal. 5 mana board sweeper and tempo cards. It probably won't be nearly as good as turning stuff sideways, but it'll be there.

BBD made a sweet list just YouTube it

[LinkCelestrial]

Control seems fine. Plenty of new counter spells and removal. 5 mana board sweeper and tempo cards. It probably won't be nearly as good as turning stuff sideways, but it'll be there.

BBD made a sweet list just YouTube it

I was gonna say. There's some things I'd change but it's great. (Like {Jace, the Living Guildpact} and more {Murderous Cut}s. I think.)

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And modern too.

what decks are gonna play {altar of the brood} in modern, taysby?

[Mattao19]

Personally see it as the 1-2 of in a couple different decks in standard.  In modern, splinter twin, tokens, and... Soul sisters?  Edh most definately.

Please tell me why twin wants it also why the eff does a damage deck want to have 2-4 copies of cards that have no damage infliction ... Tokens and soul sisters need to kill ASAP bc after t5-6 it gets harder for them so why waste a card and a mana for something that doesn't help your strategy???

[Mattao19]

Personally see it as the 1-2 of in a couple different decks in standard.  In modern, splinter twin, tokens, and... Soul sisters?  Edh most definately.

Please tell me why twin wants it also why the eff does a damage deck want to have 2-4 copies of cards that have no damage infliction ... Tokens and soul sisters need to kill ASAP bc after t5-6 it gets harder for them so why waste a card and a mana for something that doesn't help your strategy???

In case of a board wipe ability.  In case of a board wipe ability.  It gives them an alternate win con so they aren't upset if they can't combo.

Oh true bc Aetherspouts is a thing in modern ....

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Taybsy think of it this way: you are playing an extra card that relies on a combo finish to win, where the combo finish should have already won you the game. In the case that you don't get combo finish, {Altar of the Brood} is just a dead card that could have been the combo piece you needed. In the end it is a lot more trouble than its worth, and you are better off running something like {Pact of Negation} which is a lot more versatile.

[Dudecore]

Right. I can't think of one combo deck or any card in the history of Magic that is poised to leap out because there was no way to convert infinite permanents into a wincon. Like an {Intruder Alarm} combo saying "If only there were a way to mill 1 card for every time a token entered the battlefield!"

The only way it is good is turn 1 against a deck that can't win. Every other good deck in modern can out race this all day.How many decks play {Wear // Tear} or {Ancient Grudge} anyway to kill {Batterskull} and any Affinity stuff? All of them. Waste of a spot on any list.

[Destore117]

I could see it in a Mesmer orb deck

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Right. I can't think of one combo deck or any card in the history of Magic that is poised to leap out because there was no way to convert infinite permanents into a wincon. Like an {Intruder Alarm} combo saying "If only there were a way to mill 1 card for every time a token entered the battlefield!"

The only way it is good is turn 1 against a deck that can't win. Every other good deck in modern can out race this all day.How many decks play {Wear // Tear} or {Ancient Grudge} anyway to kill {Batterskull} and any Affinity stuff? All of them. Waste of a spot on any list.

I still think it will be fun in my EDH list. Infinite Elves without haste can serve another purpose.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

You put it in the side.  If you go up against a deck that gives you problems with sweepers, you side it n to give you more resilience.

It's a win more card in every sanctioned format. It's extremely slow mill without an infinite combo. And most decks with infinite permanent combos don't want it, because it's a win more card, as already mentioned. It's cool, but it's essentially just another {Altar of Dementia}.

[Dudecore]

{Altar of Dementia} is better against a boardwipe, and does something in Melira Pod (still is worse then {Blasting Station}) and enables combos.

As for rewarding you for cracking fetches, it takes up a spot in the deck... {Hedron Crab} rewards you for cracking fetches = is better.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

You get my point though, not just cracking fetches.  For playing walkers, for playing dudes, for decks that don't run blue

Taybsy give up, bad card is bad.

[Mattao19]

This is why Tron players don't get anywhere in life lol :P

[VQMracing]

Taysby, why are you so for this mill card? Last I remember you had your name as #millsux!! Why the change of heart? Haha