Commander: Revised Edition

Started by Dudecore, July 14, 2014, 12:16:42 AM

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Spikepit

It's good to see you back, Dudecore! Your intellectual brand of discourse has definitely been missing.

Dudecore

Quote from: Spikepit on July 19, 2014, 08:52:40 AM
It's good to see you back, Dudecore! Your intellectual brand of discourse has definitely been missing.

Thank you. The first part of my global domination scheme has finished, this is phase 2. Spreading and improving upon Commander 2.0 with my iMtG brethren is my current focus.

We've made some good progress so far. Unbanned {Painter's Servant}, and hopefully have folks playtesting 30 life and 30 cumulative commander damage.

If anything is to be taken from this experience, it is that the Partial Paris mulligan is the worst thing ever, and should be exchanged with the British Mulligan. I goldfish all of my decks using it, I have had my playgroup using it for over a year, I have gotten random people to adopt it.

Anoobass

Would you mind explaining a Paris and partial Paris mulligan for me...err...my friend...he uh...doesn't understand what they are...

Dudecore

Quote from: Anoobass on July 20, 2014, 12:47:58 AM
Would you mind explaining a Paris and partial Paris mulligan for me...err...my friend...he uh...doesn't understand what they are...

Partial Paris
Pros: One shuffle. Reduces mana screw.
Cons: Combo decks get pieces without card disadvantage. Makes mulliganing the correct strategy all the time. The most widely ignored rule in the whole format. Honestly, it's not surprising you've never heard of it, practically no one has, even less play with it.

Paris Mulligan is what regular magic uses. Draw 7 cards, if you don't like them then shuffle your deck and draw 6 new cards. The Paris mulligan is not useable in Commander due to deck size. The British Mulligan is sufficient.



Xaol

Playtesting this next week. I 100% agree with these suggestions- especially the nephilim and colour identity changes. Good on you for writing this all out. I will update everyone soon on how these changes work out.

Anoobass

Alright then, I will agree on the mulligan part.  Thank you for explaining :)


Dudecore

Didn't realize {Fastbond} was not banned. How would anyone feel about taking {Balance} off the list?

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't realize {Fastbond} was not banned. How would anyone feel about taking {Balance} off the list?

I think {Balance} is an awesome card, but there's just so many broken ways to abuse it.

Dudecore

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 09, 2014, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't realize {Fastbond} was not banned. How would anyone feel about taking {Balance} off the list?

I think {Balance} is an awesome card, but there's just so many broken ways to abuse it.

Maybe in single player, it's a lot harder to pull off in a singleton deck with 4 other players. There are more broken things too, like {Cataclysm}.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Dudecore on September 09, 2014, 01:31:16 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 09, 2014, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't realize {Fastbond} was not banned. How would anyone feel about taking {Balance} off the list?

I think {Balance} is an awesome card, but there's just so many broken ways to abuse it.

Maybe in single player, it's a lot harder to pull off in a singleton deck with 4 other players. There are more broken things too, like {Cataclysm}.

Good point. I'd be fine with unbanning balance.

Dudecore

Wizard's has officially sanctioned Commander for FNM. They also have an interesting caveat called "Create a Format". I can think of none better then printing up this list right here and seeing if anyone at FNM is interested in playing Commander: Revised Edition.

:)

xStrayKnightx

What's the deal with off-colour dual lands or hybrid cards? Can I have a {Gruul Turf} or {Deathrite Shaman} in my Kaalia deck?

Dudecore

Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 19, 2014, 07:56:49 AM
What's the deal with off-colour dual lands or hybrid cards? Can I have a {Gruul Turf} or {Deathrite Shaman} in my Kaalia deck?

Yep. Hybrid is allowed and you can have {Gruul Turf} but half of it would produce colorless mana.

particle

unban {yawgmoth's bargain}/ ban {necropotence}? they are almost the same card, except necro is much cheaper at 3 mana and forces you to discard to exile.