Oloro, Ageless Agitator πŸ“ Deck Tech πŸ“

Started by Dudecore, March 27, 2014, 09:26:07 PM

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Dudecore

#15
I'm rethinking my Mana rocks, bear with me. I have a bit of a crisis with my less obvious multi color artifact. These are the options.

{Fellwar Stone}
Pros: I can cast this off {Sol Ring} or {Ancient Tomb}. Which is very helpful to have a low mana cost. It also comes in untapped, and I've never had it not produce at least 2 colors I could use (I guess it could happen theoretically)
Cons: in my ideal boardstate, one where opponents have no lands, it does not tap for mana. Not even colorless.


{Darksteel Ingot}
Pros: Dat indestructible doe. While not super valuable is nice if I use {Tezzeret the Seeker}s ultimate.
Cons: 3 CMC is pushing it to the limit. I have to crack multiple rocks for it. I also feel like "we'll if I'm going to pay 3...isn't {Coalition Relic} better?" Which brings me to....

{Coalition Relic}
Pros: Mana ramp which I have to use awkwardly on my precombat main phase. I like doing things a turn earlier.
Cons: 3 CMC still, isn't indestructible. Just a strictly better {Manalith}


Gorzo

I'm a fan of  {Coalition Relic}, myself. If you can only fit one mana rock, that's my recommendation.

Dudecore


cltrn81


LordJanova

Have you thought about {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV}? Seems like he might be good. I have no idea what you would take out for him though.

Dudecore

Quote from: cltrn81 on September 03, 2014, 02:17:23 PM
{collective restraint} would be good in this

It's a more expensive {Propaganda}. I can't imagine what I would cut for it.

Quote from: LordJanova on September 03, 2014, 02:35:26 PM
Have you thought about {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV}? Seems like he might be good. I have no idea what you would take out for him though.

I'm gearing toward going creatureless. He is good, cheap and I like the effect. I am thinking about {Tainted Γ†ther} instead of {Sun Titan}, just going completely creatureless (Besides the Theros Gods, because they're sort of immune to all the creature punishing strategies)

Thetrufflehunter

Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

Dudecore

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-

Thetrufflehunter

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-
$200?

Dudecore

#24
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-
$200?

A wee bit less. But yeah, nearly 5x what it was worth 2 years ago. Craziness.

{Return to Dust} has to change to Utter End right? I lose the 2 for 1; I gain planeswalkers and creatures.

Thetrufflehunter

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:56:41 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-
$200?

A wee bit less. But yeah, nearly 5x what it was worth 2 years ago. Craziness.

{Return to Dust} has to change to Utter End right? I lose the 2 for 1; I gain planeswalkers and creatures.
Yuuuup.

Any tips on what to hunt down first? I am gonna build this after I finish my modern deck.

Dudecore

#26
You're going to build my list? My suggestions are get the cheap stuff first. Prices rise every day and the market can be volatile. Some "cheap" foils can be EDH staples the next day. If not, they're cheap.

Reserve list stuff will never be printed again, there is no good time to track it down. You can actually afford to do some auctions on eBay. You're not in any sort of rush. I'd say 90% of the time you'll be good bidding up to the cheapest Buy It Now price, and get it cheaper.

I also got a number of things from Grand Prix and Pro Tours. The ChannelFireball booth and Star City Games booths can be convinced that their cards might not be in ideal condition, you can haggle with them in person. :P

I've got near mint cards from a vendor at a Magic event by haggling. I remember the arena foil {Enlightened Tutor} I got at GP Richmond for $25 (when it was marked at $50) because it was in a dirty sleeve and I said something about that.

Thetrufflehunter

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:21:33 PM
You're going to build my list? My suggestions are get the cheap stuff first. Prices rise every day and the market can be volatile. Some "cheap" foils can be EDH staples the next day. If not, they're cheap.

Reserve list stuff will never be printed again, there is no good time to track it down. You can actually afford to do some auctions on eBay. You're not in any sort of rush. I'd say 90% of the time you'll be good bidding up to the cheapest Buy It Now price, and get it cheaper.

I also got a number of things from Grand Prix and Pro Tours. The ChannelFireball booth and Star City Games booths can be convinced that their cards might not be in ideal condition, you can haggle with them in person. :P
I'll wait on the big stuff till GP San Jose then....

Now, to find some IMTG friends to hang with me at the GP...

Dudecore

Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the {Serra's Sanctum} I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail

Thetrufflehunter

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:33:22 PM
Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the {Serra's Sanctum} I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail
Where would I find a list of magic trade shows? Do they even exist? :P
Ill keep my eyes peeled for SCG opens and such.