Khans of Tarkir (Speculations and Spoilers)

Started by Xaol, May 18, 2014, 02:43:46 PM

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Bookmeister

Question, can you fetch an {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} with a {Polluted Delta}?

Edit: Nevermind, should have read the cards rulings before posting. The answer is no, Urborg is not a swamp while it is not in the battlefield.

rarehuntertay

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 31, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 31, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 31, 2014, 11:46:18 AM
{Lens of Clarity} can I get a hell yeah? Sick card.
Seems pretty awsome, I could see a control deck that controls there draws with this..

It's your library and all face down morphs. Control will still like it for countering morphs.
Lens lets you look at face down creatures. You cannot counter morph, as in flipping face up, as it doesn't use the stack. A spell as cast face-down on the stack, the lens you can't use to look at.
As for the new wooded foothills, it reminds me a lot of the artwork for {taiga}

Dudecore

Quote from: Bookmeister on August 31, 2014, 11:59:02 AM
Question, can you fetch an {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} with a {Polluted Delta}?

Urborg isn't a swamp unless it is on the battlefield. No

Falcon182

Well that sucks. I want all my expensive cards back that I traded for fetches. Including a  {Tarmogoyf},  {Vendilion Clique},  {Bayou}. Screw this game dude! I just lost like $400 overnight.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 31, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 31, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 31, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 31, 2014, 11:46:18 AM
{Lens of Clarity} can I get a hell yeah? Sick card.
Seems pretty awsome, I could see a control deck that controls there draws with this..

It's your library and all face down morphs. Control will still like it for countering morphs.
Lens lets you look at face down creatures. You cannot counter morph, as in flipping face up, as it doesn't use the stack. A spell as cast face-down on the stack, the lens you can't use to look at.
As for the new wooded foothills, it reminds me a lot of the artwork for {taiga}

By counter I meant deal with. I know you can't counter flipping morphs and I realize that you can't see them when they're on the stack. I mean now control is going to know where its catchers/bouncers should be going. The other part is great for effects like {Galvanoth}

Horrible wording on my part. Sorry.

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 31, 2014, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 31, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 31, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 31, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 31, 2014, 11:46:18 AM
{Lens of Clarity} can I get a hell yeah? Sick card.
Seems pretty awsome, I could see a control deck that controls there draws with this..

It's your library and all face down morphs. Control will still like it for countering morphs.
Lens lets you look at face down creatures. You cannot counter morph, as in flipping face up, as it doesn't use the stack. A spell as cast face-down on the stack, the lens you can't use to look at.
As for the new wooded foothills, it reminds me a lot of the artwork for {taiga}

By counter I meant deal with. I know you can't counter flipping morphs and I realize that you can't see them when they're on the stack. I mean now control is going to know where its catchers/bouncers should be going. The other part is great for effects like {Galvanoth}

Horrible wording on my part. Sorry.
Or {domri rade} type cards

Dudecore

You think Control is even going to run the Lens? It's just a super pushed hoser. I remember the most recent artifact hosers they pushed hard on the meta-game ({Grafdigger's Cage}, {Glaring Spotlight}) didn't see much Standard action.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Dudecore on August 31, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
You think Control is even going to run the Lens? It's just a super pushed hoser. I remember the most recent artifact hosers they pushed hard on the meta-game ({Grafdigger's Cage}, {Glaring Spotlight}) didn't see much Standard action.

Fair enough. I'm a real sucker for cool sounding things. I guess it'll be useful in sealed formats, no?

Destore117

And what do we buy apart from Fetches?
MORE FETCHES! -slap-
Khans of Tarkir.

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: Destore117 on August 31, 2014, 12:59:06 PM
And what do we buy apart from Fetches?
MORE FETCHES! -slap-
Khans of Tarkir.
Do not preorder they will drop down to 10-15.. Be patient!

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 31, 2014, 01:00:14 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 31, 2014, 12:59:06 PM
And what do we buy apart from Fetches?
MORE FETCHES! -slap-
Khans of Tarkir.
Do not preorder they will drop down to 10-15.. Be patient!
Definitely! Morph is a really cool ability in limited (makes games more interesting and decks are less suseptable and I'm excited about some of the commons already, so I'm thinking this will see a lot of drafting. That plus fetches means this set will be opened like crazy. I'm predicting ally fetches at $10 and enemy down to $25-40 a month after release.

Dudecore

Khans packs are going to be in the Holiday Gift Box, the Intro decks (with alt. art foil rares) and the pre-release boxes (8 alt art foil rares per clan, 40 total). This set is going to be opened A LOT. Now there is a gold rush for Fetches. Patience is definitely key. I mean, $20 per fetch isn't going to be the end of the world if you preorder. But these things will be $7-$15.

MuggyWuggy

Yeah it seems like modern and legacy are getting support constantly from wiz.

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: Dudecore on August 31, 2014, 01:10:08 PM
Khans packs are going to be in the Holiday Gift Box, the Intro decks (with alt. art foil rares) and the pre-release boxes (8 alt art foil rares per clan, 40 total). This set is going to be opened A LOT. Now there is a gold rush for Fetches. Patience is definitely key. I mean, $20 per fetch isn't going to be the end of the world if you preorder. But these things will be $7-$15.
ebay is going crazy with people, trying to sell! They know its going to drop harder

Dudecore

I've got 7 {Flooded Strands} from Onslaught. I've never been happier for a reprint. I like the new art, the new frames and the possibility of sub $200 foils. :)
Also, I can get the other onslaught fetches for my EDH decks, that I couldn't justify spending $50+ for mana fixing. I wonder if they're going to seed Fetches in the pre-release boxes.
I can envision going 2 for 1 on my Onslaught fetches for Khans one. Like I did with my Ravnica Shocks for RtR shocks.