Pride And Joy

[Mattacheu]

Pride And Joy 60 cards, 0 sideboard 4 {Watery Grave} 4 {Polluted Delta} 4 {Temple of Deceit} 2 {Nephalia Drownyard} 4 {Ghost Quarter} 4 {Drowned Catacomb} 22 lands 2 {Phenax, God of Deception} 2 {Consuming Aberration} 4 {Jace's Phantasm} 2 {Duskmantle Guildmage} 10 creatures 4 {Glimpse the Unthinkable} 1 {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} 3 {Vapor Snag} 4 {Bloodchief Ascension} 3 {Visions of Beyond} 3 {Mind Grind} 3 {Breaking // Entering} 2 {Jace Beleren} 3 {Archive Trap} 2 {Mindcrank} 28 other spells Sideboard Notes: I have always been a "miller", and until now, I've had decks that have leaned both ways. One towards pure mill, on towards creatures that help, or get affected by mill. I wasent really happy with it, so I ha thought and thought, and this came to life. I love the idea of it, and I'm excited to get it into play, and see the fear on peoples faces when they see that I'm playing it. I'm just looking for thoughts, and what I can do to make this absolutely terrifying. Thanks

[LinkCelestrial]

No {Jace, Memory Adept}? He's kinda better than {Jace Beleren}.

[Mattacheu]

I honestly like beleren more than memory adept, as it doesn't paint as big of a target on me. Everyone draws cards, which everyone appreciates, and therefor, no one touches him. It allows for the sneaky way for me to ult him out of the blue with ascention or duskmantle on the field. Pretty much insta game. Also, he is a 3 cmc to memories 5, which is easier on me to get out. Also, I've always ran him, and time and time again has he saved me by helping me draw into the one card I needed, or just helped me cycle through my deck a little quicker. I just think he is better then memory, but that's personal preferance.

[Popper23345]

I honestly like beleren more than memory adept, as it doesn't paint as big of a target on me. Everyone draws cards, which everyone appreciates, and therefor, no one touches him. It allows for the sneaky way for me to ult him out of the blue with ascention or duskmantle on the field. Pretty much insta game. Also, he is a 3 cmc to memories 5, which is easier on me to get out. Also, I've always ran him, and time and time again has he saved me by helping me draw into the one card I needed, or just helped me cycle through my deck a little quicker. I just think he is better then memory, but that's personal preferance.

Well said, because although jace, memory adept's zero ability mills them out pretty quick, you can ult beleren pretty quick, and then it's most likely game

[Mattacheu]

Exactly. And my meta is full of people who run creature heavy decks, so I would rather stay out of the crossfire with this deck.

[LinkCelestrial]

I see what you're saying. As a .politics. card {Jace Beleren} is the bomb.

The only other cards I'd think of running are {Traumatize} and {Mind Grind}. The second of which is a fantastic multiplayer mill card. 

[Mattacheu]

Made the change, and now it should hopefully be a multi-kill with a bloodline on the field, which is hilarious to meh

[LinkCelestrial]

Made the change, and now it should hopefully be a multi-kill with a bloodline on the field, which is hilarious to meh

I think it has potential. Me like.

[Mattacheu]

I ran it for a while before, when a friend had shown me mind funeral. Thought it was better, in an 1v1 sense, which it is, and gotten that instead. I will be playing multiplayer however, ffa's and all that, so grind does work much better

[Mattacheu]

Thinking I can ditch phenax, for my creatures don't want to really be tapped, as they are defenders

[LinkCelestrial]

Thinking I can ditch phenax, for my creatures don't want to really be tapped, as they are defenders

No! You get priority just before your turn starts so you can tap everything and mill, then go to your untap step.

[Mattacheu]

Point made! Thank you for that wonderful idea :3

[LinkCelestrial]

Point made! Thank you for that wonderful idea :3

As a burn/counterburn player I abuse that rule often.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

No, I don't think Joy is a homunculus.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

{Nephalia Drownyard} could be good. It helps you grind out games where you can't stick creatures and mill faster when you can.