Orzhov control cards

[Destore117]

My main thing against thoughtseize is the $ price, I can agree it is 100% better (depending on your deck maybe? Idk...like if you absolutely can't lose life then idk.) but yeah. Castigate seems like a next best thing, and! They can't get it out if the GY

[Munchlax]

I've always liked {Night Terrors} the other two are better but I like the exile effect. I played it in standard against Reanimator decks. Worked wonders

[LinkCelestrial]

So us no one talking about how link thinks {castigate} is better than {Thoughtseize}?

Did I mention my personal bias against paying life for effects?

{Thoughtsieze} costs one mana less, which is because of the life lost. It also makes the card retrievable (depending on who you're playing against.)

Yes the one turn later is a huge deal. But later game {Castigate} is the better draw. 

[Mattao19]

Ya but link late game both are bad draws. You want to play T Seize turn 1 so you can take the card that they NEED! Whereas sometimes the castigate is too slow

[Mattao19]

Ya but link late game both are bad draws. You want to play T Seize turn 1 so you can take the card that they NEED! Whereas sometimes the castigate is too slow

Example {AEther Vial}

[LinkCelestrial]

Ya but link late game both are bad draws. You want to play T Seize turn 1 so you can take the card that they NEED! Whereas sometimes the castigate is too slow

Example {AEther Vial}

Fair enough. I concede that {Thoughtsieze} is better.