Kiln Fiend + Storm

[Jekawo]

Ok guys can i get a specific rule for this, i will need it for when i play my group as i'm  kinda the rules guy for us.

[scarsabrex]

its actually intuitive. storm says when this spell is cast etc. the storm copies also have storm. if the copies were indeed cast you would repeat the storm trigger for each copy... which just lands you with more storm copies with storm triggers to go through

[Jekawo]

Not that the storm copies have storm, but do they count for {Kiln Fiend}. Specifically are the copies of e.g. {scattershot} all gonna resolve {kiln fiend}s +3/+0 ability?

[scarsabrex]

fact:
storm copies have storm

myth: storm copies are cast

[Jekawo]

Still need a specific rule, sorry to hound for it but my guys do not want to be cheated of the chance to kill my deck, and neither do i want to cheat them.

[scarsabrex]

k rule 706.10 there's a rules function in this app

706.10. To copy a spell or activated ability means to put a copy of it onto the stack; a copy of a spell isn't cast and a copy of an activated ability isn't activated. A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs. (See rule 601, "Casting Spells.") Choices that are normally made on resolution are not copied. If an effect of the copy refers to objects used to pay its costs, it uses the objects used to pay the costs of the original spell or ability. A copy of a spell is owned by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell or ability is controlled by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell is itself a spell, even though it has no spell card associated with it. A copy of an ability is itself an ability.

[Jekawo]

Thanks looked it up as you wrote but got too clunky for my head to follow. Huge props for you all!

[BadLuckIrish]

so thus i was right and te copies dont count for both the kiln and later storms yes?

[BlackJester]

so thus i was right and te copies dont count for both the kiln and later storms yes?

Yes.