What do you believe in?

Started by Sevenfold, July 23, 2012, 04:41:37 AM

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Dstyle1

I think it's almost a challenge form learner to go back to page 150 find random thread and make remark.

Piotr

We have infinite real common universe to share*, so we should never have to steal. True or false?

* according to current science, which explains the logic of reality.

Mlerner12

Quote from: Piotr on August 02, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
We have infinite real common universe to share*, so we should never have to steal. True or false?

* according to current science, which explains the logic of reality.
Eh... It's not proven that the universe is infinite. Plus we can't inhabit or make use of most of the universe, so it really wouldn't be fair.

gtfotis

I believe in some form of reincarnation, I have too many prophetic dreams to not have done this .poo. before.

Spencer Addington

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Quote from: Fenster on July 23, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
Im an atheist until proven otherwise :)

Don't ask for someone to prove it, just leave it alone.

IBTF
No i didnt mean like that, if someone could prove anything i'd believe. But so far none have. Im just saying im openminded to all theories as long as they can be backed up by facts that are not pure guessing or man made fiction. There are mysteries out there that science have no explenation for, yet.

That is not atheism that is agnostic. Please review a belief before you pick it. Will give you a better understanding of what your suppose to belief.
Had to put this out there: You can be an agnostic athiest. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Taysby on August 02, 2014, 12:29:08 PM
And do you have to join a group and believe what they do?  Believe what you want, and if you call it the wrong thing, so what?
What's your point?

Spencer Addington

Knowledge is a subset of belief. Do you know there is a god? I do not. Atheist. Is it possible that there is a god? Yes. Agnostic atheist.

PapaBudz

I don't do beliefs. I observe and ponder. However, the one sure thing you can believe in is yourself.

blackychan1

Anthonyism. I believe that I am a god.

Distriimuir

I believe our universe is one of an infinite collective of universes. I think the Big Bang explains our start well enough for now( I hold the option to change with new evidence given). No god, but I do believe in meta physical embodiments of the fates that pre decide our destiny. Once we die in this existence  we just move to the next form of existence and the cycle continues. Though I don't claim to know what the next worlds hold, we maybe energy or hell there may be a form of heaven for all I know, but this can't be the end, it's too small to not be the start of existence. Train us for the planes to come so to speak :)

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Infektor on August 02, 2014, 11:38:32 PM
I believe our universe is one of an infinite collective of universes. I think the Big Bang explains our start well enough for now( I hold the option to change with new evidence given). No god, but I do believe in meta physical embodiments of the fates that pre decide our destiny. Once we die in this existence  we just move to the next form of existence and the cycle continues. Though I don't claim to know what the next worlds hold, we maybe energy or hell there may be a form of heaven for all I know, but this can't be the end, it's too small to not be the start of existence. Train us for the planes to come so to speak :)

Before I say anything else I wanna clarify a few things,

First, I'm biased like virtually everyone else.
Second, I'm a Christian (see above)
Third, I'm not intending to insult or attack you, I'm just asking some questions and giving my two cents. I'm a naturally curious person.

Onwards. I've always found the theory of infinite universes confusing and somewhat illogical.  If there are infinite universes, then there are infinite universes in which the whole universe is dedicated to the irradication of you, each with various means to do so. Yet you are still here. On the flip side you might argue that there are infinite universes protecting you, but at which point does it end? The same concept can be applied to any aspect of life and I find it tears itself apart, at least in my head.

On The Big Bang, I've always considered it an interesting concept. I'm a creationist so I do disagree with it however I respect the idea as it does make sense.

You say no god, then you give a description of beings that sounds very much like gods. What's your distinction between the two and why do you believe in the beings you described instead of a god or gods? Not trying to be mean or anything, just curious.

So you believe in cross universal reincarnation? (For lack of better terms) I think that's a neat idea, I can't say I agree with it but I don't see any holes. May I ask why you believe this? You say it's to train us for the planes to come, does that mean this is the first plane?

Again, just asking questions. If you don't wish to answer them that's perfectly fine. I just enjoy deep conversation. Feel free to ask me questions and I'll do my best to answer them. :)

Distriimuir

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 03, 2014, 02:37:30 AM
Quote from: Infektor on August 02, 2014, 11:38:32 PM
I believe our universe is one of an infinite collective of universes. I think the Big Bang explains our start well enough for now( I hold the option to change with new evidence given). No god, but I do believe in meta physical embodiments of the fates that pre decide our destiny. Once we die in this existence  we just move to the next form of existence and the cycle continues. Though I don't claim to know what the next worlds hold, we maybe energy or hell there may be a form of heaven for all I know, but this can't be the end, it's too small to not be the start of existence. Train us for the planes to come so to speak :)

Before I say anything else I wanna clarify a few things,

First, I'm biased like virtually everyone else.
Second, I'm a Christian (see above)
Third, I'm not intending to insult or attack you, I'm just asking some questions and giving my two cents. I'm a naturally curious person.

Onwards. I've always found the theory of infinite universes confusing and somewhat illogical.  If there are infinite universes, then there are infinite universes in which the whole universe is dedicated to the irradication of you, each with various means to do so. Yet you are still here. On the flip side you might argue that there are infinite universes protecting you, but at which point does it end? The same concept can be applied to any aspect of life and I find it tears itself apart, at least in my head.

On The Big Bang, I've always considered it an interesting concept. I'm a creationist so I do disagree with it however I respect the idea as it does make sense.

You say no god, then you give a description of beings that sounds very much like gods. What's your distinction between the two and why do you believe in the beings you described instead of a god or gods? Not trying to be mean or anything, just curious.

So you believe in cross universal reincarnation? (For lack of better terms) I think that's a neat idea, I can't say I agree with it but I don't see any holes. May I ask why you believe this? You say it's to train us for the planes to come, does that mean this is the first plane?

Again, just asking questions. If you don't wish to answer them that's perfectly fine. I just enjoy deep conversation. Feel free to ask me questions and I'll do my best to answer them. :)

Always interested to have a civil discussion:)
Ill try to do them in order.
1. When I say infinite universes, I'm not speaking of say I'm the me in this one, and in one I'm dead. I more mean that this isn't the only level of our eternity. Afterlife, heaven, what have you, whatever it may be I just refer to it as the next planes of our existence.
2.As for the fates, yes I very much do relate them to what a god would be I guess in the Christian sense. Though I do not think they can alter or interfere in our fate, just that they over see it and end it when the time was nessicary for my timeline.
As for a cycle of reincarnation, yes I do believe we continue on. Though like i said I'm not too sure on what form that would be in (energy, spirits, physical forms, etc)
I do think we're being molded in this world for the next, and that in the next we will do so for the plane after.
I mean plane as in another level of life, after this and much like a cycle of forms of existence.
As for why? Years of soul searching, readin up on the worlds religions, both historical and modern. From all I seen, read,felt I've come to these conclusions. Though when new evidence presents itself I shape to it if I think it's true.
I have no qualms with a or any god, I've just found it doesn't suit my spiritual feeling about the universe around me.
Always happy to answer well thought out questions, and wish wellness on anyone following their own truth.

Piotr

Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 02, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: Piotr on August 02, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
We have infinite real common universe to share*, so we should never have to steal. True or false?

* according to current science, which explains the logic of reality.
Eh... It's not proven that the universe is infinite.

It is proven. Where do you go to school, do they also teach you that evolution is just a scam by Darwin and his cronies? O.o

Piotr

Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 02, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: Piotr on August 02, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
We have infinite real common universe to share*, so we should never have to steal. True or false?

* according to current science, which explains the logic of reality.
Eh... It's not proven that the universe is infinite. Plus we can't inhabit or make use of most of the universe, so it really wouldn't be fair.

Because we cannot use all of the universe, it is not fair never have to steal? Explain your logic.

Mlerner12

Quote from: Piotr on August 03, 2014, 04:06:49 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 02, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: Piotr on August 02, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
We have infinite real common universe to share*, so we should never have to steal. True or false?

* according to current science, which explains the logic of reality.
Eh... It's not proven that the universe is infinite. Plus we can't inhabit or make use of most of the universe, so it really wouldn't be fair.

Because we cannot use all of the universe, it is not fair never have to steal? Explain your logic.
That's not what I meant. I meant if you gave an even amount of the universe to everybody it wouldn't be fair due to the conditions of most of he universe.