Sorin's Double Vengeance (and other ideas)

[Destore117]

{Twinning Glass} + {Sorin's Vengeance} (with a second in hand)
Other options
{Corrupt}
{gray merchant of asphodel} (or the Mogis one that deals {R} devotion damage)
Or {Glimpse the unthinkable}?


Unrelated: Why did I get Negative Karma for this?

[DrainCleaner]

Unrelated: Why did I get Negative Karma for this?

The first one isn't really a combo its just {Twinning Glass} and a big spell.
The second thing is just two cards that don't combo at all.
Then you just kinda wrote {Glimpse the Unthinkable}.

This thread is for hard combos such as {Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker} + {Pestermite} or {Thragtusk} + {Worldfire}.

People have been getting increasingly irritated on here with stuff like that lately.

p.s. Don't neg the messenger lol

[particle]

Unrelated: Why did I get Negative Karma for this?

The first one isn't really a combo its just {Twinning Glass} and a big spell.
The second thing is just two cards that don't combo at all.
Then you just kinda wrote {Glimpse the Unthinkable}.

This thread is for hard combos such as {Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker} + {Pestermite} or {Thragtusk} + {Worldfire}.

People have been getting increasingly irritated on here with stuff like that lately.

p.s. Don't neg the messenger lol

This^^^^^^^^^^

[Destore117]

Okay. This is my "crazy combo idea" sorry it doesn't fit your specific standards for a "combo"

Just cuz it's not some t3 win the game instantly doesn't mean it can't be considered a combo. And as the title said it was an "idea thread" meaning those aren't the only cards you could use with it. So unthinkable was kinda a dumb idea. Sorry. I never knew about Twinning glass. Found it in the database. And figured you could use cards like Sorin's Vengeance for a high damage / life gain. or whatever other cards people can think of  as a combo.

Used to be you'd post a combo thread. People would give you feedback and ways to improve it. Instead of just saying "that's not a combo." And being total .love. About everything. So my combo costs a lot of mana. Ok. It can't win the game within 2 turns. Who cares. It's still a valid idea to deal 20 damage and gain 20 life.

How about, instead of just putting my idea down and being an ass. Give me ways to improve it. (that don't cost you know. A few hundred/thousand $ like Kiki Jiki decks.)

[particle]

ok, but the reason we think its not a combo is because you need 2 of the same high casting card in hand with {twinning glass} on the field, using twinning glass basically how the card was intended. you choose specific cards that would benefit in the same way by being {fork}ed or {twincast}ed. by using the card the way its intended, and not providing a cheaper way to cast the original spell, this is more synergy and less a combo.

[LinkCelestrial]

I'm absolutely sick of all these rants and arguments. Shut up about how it's a synergy and help turn it into a combo. Or post a combo if all these synergies are making you sick and you want more combos. People are not trying to post synergies to irk you and lower the quality of this thread. They're trying to share their ideas and get advice and feedback. Besides, until I joined here I didn't even know what the difference between synergy and combo was. Get off your high chair, stop smashing people that are trying to be helpful, and be helpful yourself. /You're/ lowering the quality of this thread by shutting down potential combo makers and clogging up threads that could be useful to someone. End rant.

Now I'll take my own advice. If you played the deck with {Brainstorm}, {Galvanoth}, {Twinning Glass} and {Sorin's Vengance} it could be a turn six game. Get out {Galvanoth} and {Twinning Glass}. Get two {Sorin's Vengance} in your hand. (That's a little hard. {Diabolic Tutor} and {Demonic Tutor} would help.) along with {Brainstorm}. Before your upkeep, {Brainstorm} {Sorin's Vengance} to the top of your deck. Cast it for free with {Galvanoth} and follow up with {Twinning Glass} and the one in hand. Twenty damage twenty life gain on hypothetical turn six. (Without mana ramp). {Mystical Tutor} could also be used in place of {Brainstorm} with the bonus of grabbing that extra {Sorin's Vengance} and putting it right where you want it. This is tri colour which is a bit nasty, but you could throw in  {Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge} as an extra way to cheat out {Sorin's Vengance} and abuse {Brainstorm} and {Mystical Tutor}. I'd like to point out that this could also cheat out any instant or sorcery and double it for a relatively cheap mana investment. {Army of the Dammned} and {Cruel Ultimatuim} perhaps.

See? I just expanded on {Sorin's Vengance} + {Twinning Glass}. A "synergy" and turned it into a whole entire deck idea. If all ya'll would do that sort of thing imagine what this thread could cook up?

[The1337Magician]

To those who post "This is a synergy not a combo" or others like them:

If you see any "non-combos", a simple solution is to not comment at all. If you ignore the thread, it won't bother you and you won't have to tell everyone "Post real combos, stupid". It is an easy way for anything annoying. Remember: having no response is sometimes the best response.

Sincerely,
Leet

[Chargingswadger]

 A combo is when you use two cards in the way they were not intended to be used with. This is how twinning glass was supposed to be used.

[particle]

A combo is when you use two cards in the way they were not intended to be used with. This is how twinning glass was supposed to be used.

Again, This^^^^^^^^.
This is also the 2nd time someone has suggested that instead of telling someone their combo is actually synergistic I should post on ways to improve the combo. while sometimes i do try to suggest a card, im not gonna scour the internet everytime someone posts something like {porphyry nodes} and {true-name nemesis} for a way to turn it into a combo. and yes sometimes things are better left unposted on, which is why i only posted this after DrainCleaner expressed my views, im not gonna just sit behind my screen and see combo corner go to .poo.. people actually have been posting some legit combos here recently which is great. but using {twinning glass} even with all those tutors is still not a combo. its taking a card that is much worse than {fork} (since you need a 2nd copy of the card you wanna cast again in hand) and attempting to make a deck around it to make it playable.

[Subiskier]

^^^^^this

I'm absolutely sick of all these rants and arguments. Shut up about how it's a synergy and help turn it into a combo. Or post a combo if all these synergies are making you sick and you want more combos. People are not trying to post synergies to irk you and lower the quality of this thread. They're trying to share their ideas and get advice and feedback. Besides, until I joined here I didn't even know what the difference between synergy and combo was. Get off your high chair, stop smashing people that are trying to be helpful, and be helpful yourself. /You're/ lowering the quality of this thread by shutting down potential combo makers and clogging up threads that could be useful to someone. End rant.

Now I'll take my own advice. If you played the deck with {Brainstorm}, {Galvanoth}, {Twinning Glass} and {Sorin's Vengance} it could be a turn six game. Get out {Galvanoth} and {Twinning Glass}. Get two {Sorin's Vengance} in your hand. (That's a little hard. {Diabolic Tutor} and {Demonic Tutor} would help.) along with {Brainstorm}. Before your upkeep, {Brainstorm} {Sorin's Vengance} to the top of your deck. Cast it for free with {Galvanoth} and follow up with {Twinning Glass} and the one in hand. Twenty damage twenty life gain on hypothetical turn six. (Without mana ramp). {Mystical Tutor} could also be used in place of {Brainstorm} with the bonus of grabbing that extra {Sorin's Vengance} and putting it right where you want it. This is tri colour which is a bit nasty, but you could throw in  {Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge} as an extra way to cheat out {Sorin's Vengance} and abuse {Brainstorm} and {Mystical Tutor}. I'd like to point out that this could also cheat out any instant or sorcery and double it for a relatively cheap mana investment. {Army of the Dammned} and {Cruel Ultimatuim} perhaps.

See? I just expanded on {Sorin's Vengance} + {Twinning Glass}. A "synergy" and turned it into a whole entire deck idea. If all ya'll would do that sort of thing imagine what this thread could cook up?

[LinkCelestrial]

Wow. You guys are ridiculous. "A couple of tutors?" All the tutors were after thoughts. I got it down to two mana and two cards on the battlefield for game winning damage. I'm completely done with all of you.

[DrainCleaner]

I may have made it sound like i was bein a dick but i was just explaining why probably he got negged. Those were not necessarily my opinions and views on the subject but a clear answer as to why somebody negged him.

[Wally]

A combo is when you use two cards in the way they were not intended to be used with. This is how twinning glass was supposed to be used.

I'm sorry, but what makes this the only definition of a combo?

[Subiskier]

There is a whole "two card combo" thread. So more than two cards aren't a combo now?
Silly iMTG. I miss the old days

[particle]

There is a whole "two card combo" thread. So more than two cards aren't a combo now?
Silly iMTG. I miss the old days

no, combos can exist with more than two cards, two cards combos are just a specific thing that people are interested in.