Wurmcoil

[Avodroc13]

{Wurmcoil Engine}
If someone exiles it, do I still get the tokens?

[Chargingswadger]

No. "Dies" referres to it being placed into the graveyard from the battlefield.

[Chargingswadger]

Lol why did I get down voted for this xD

[Anoobass]

Maby (I swear it wasn't me.) because someone already answered the question and you were posting redundant unnecessary info?

Some people on here are assholes.

Would make sense if it wasn't a keyoto...  He was 20 seconds late, not 20 minutes.

[Skarekrow512]

But you werent completely correct Taysby. Dying can also mean sacrificing. If a card were to say exile instead of putting it in the graveyard and it died by combat or was sacrificed the "dying" trigger still goes off. The trigger doesnt go off with cards such as {path to exile}.

[griffin131]

But you werent completely correct Taysby. Dying can also mean sacrificing. If a card were to say exile instead of putting it in the graveyard and it died by combat or was sacrificed the "dying" trigger still goes off. The trigger doesnt go off with cards such as {path to exile}.

No it wouldn't. Dying requires hitting the graveyard. If it's exiled instead of hitting the graveyard it didn't die.

700.4.: The term dies means "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield."

[Chargingswadger]

I wish I could see who down voted because most of the time for me it's completely unreasonable.

[LinkCelestrial]

But you werent completely correct Taysby. Dying can also mean sacrificing. If a card were to say exile instead of putting it in the graveyard and it died by combat or was sacrificed the "dying" trigger still goes off. The trigger doesnt go off with cards such as {path to exile}.

No it wouldn't. Dying requires hitting the graveyard. If it's exiled instead of hitting the graveyard it didn't die.

700.4.: The term dies means "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield."

So {Rest in Peace} means nothing can die? That doesn't make sense. And what does that mean for {Annihilating Fire} and such?

[Mattao19]

{Rest in Peace} does mean that nothing dies

Also say you use 2 {Annihilating Fires} to kill {Wurmcoil Engine} the Wurmcoil tokens DO NOT come into play bc it's been exiled and therefore it doesn't die

[Ekann1]

"If it would die, exile it instead"

[LinkCelestrial]

"If it would die, exile it instead"

But that doesn't affect indestructible as it wouldn't die? Just seems really weird that {Rest in Peace} makes things NOT die.

[Skarekrow512]

Then how would {blood artist} work with tokens. Also undying still triggers on tokens even though they dont come back to the field.  {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed} for example gives undying to everything, including tokens. When they "die" they dont go to the GY but it still triggers.

[LinkCelestrial]

Don't get hung up on something "dying" as opposed to it being destroyed

dying is the action of something being moved from the battlefield to the graveyard
Indestructible cannot "die" via damage or destroy effects, but can go to the grave via reduction of toughness and can therefor die that way
The action of "a creatures dying" is a result more than an effect if that makes sense

I was specifically talking about {annihilating fire} vs indestructible. But thanks for the input. 

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

Actually when tokens die they do go to the graveyard. They just cease to exist from that moment on.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

110.5f: A token that's phased out, or that's in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)