Karatbars is not a scam/scheme/whatever

[Silent1236]

Watch the FREAKING video before making any other claims.

C'mon man, you've gotta be smarter than that. You honestly posted a half an hour long video and then got pissed when people didn't watch it?  It's literally just a guy reading some text. For almost 30 minutes. If you need to do some convincing in video form, you should probably keep it at about 5-10 minutes.

As for this topic, I'm just going to keep my currency rather than throw it at what may be a gram of gold, but may not be.

Also, saying it's all real because they're certified and then just repeating yourself and getting angry doesn't do much for ya 😉 

[MuggyWuggy]

Negging people for stating their love of you is silly also

[Piotr]

Conan.  Paper currency's that have nothing to back it have a 100% failure rate.  Every single one of them will fail.  Even the dollar.  It's happened to Germany multiple times, it just happened in chile.  Ukraine is going through it right now.

The dollar is headed that way right now.  Inflation.  It's unavoidable.  The dollar is becoming worth less and less, while gold holds it's value.  No one has any plans to stop inflation except go back to the gold standard.

Gold has always been worth something.  Never has it not been worth something.  The value of the gold doesn't constantly fluctuate up and down.  The value of the currency is what fluctuates.

Then why are you selling it?

I don't sell it.  I direct people to the company and make a commission.  The company sells it because a) they didn't just go out and spend a couple billion dollars on gold.  No person could do that.  They use the money they get from selling their previous gold to get new gold.  The individual people buy their gold through the company and don't sell it.  They save it for when the currency tanks and need to buy milk and gas.

Ok. First the person who just bought the L.A. Clippers just spent $2 billion on them. So it could be done.

Second. Why would I buy from you when I could go directly to karat bar?

Third if the US dollar crashes the only thing gold will be good for is looting.

Yeah, your argument raises more questions then it answers. So your company is just cycling through gold in some sort of benevolent redistribution scheme? Or are they gouging people to get more gold? Or are are they just after cash? Anyway you look at, it's a scam.

You have problems with basic maths? The company sells gram of gold which is $40 for $65 and you are calling it scam? They are simply making reasonable and sustainable profit.

[Piotr]

Money I can spend on things- gold has to be translated back to money to become useful anywas, right?

Right*. What Taysby is betting on is collapse of fiat currencies. Not the stupidest bet I've seen, to be honest

* to a certain degree, gold is money in the sense that when you come to me and ask for services worth X and offer me X + cost of processing gold into cash, I have no problem with that.

[Rass]

Taysby. The problem is you keep saying your facts are from karatbars. Yes lawyers paid by karatbars will say its a good idea. There website will highlight the satisfied customers. That is why I do not believe these work. You need a third party without a vested interest.

Next. When the dollar was backed by gold or silver there was no inflation?

[Apathy Reactor]

Here is a ton of satisfied people showing the holes in common arguments.
http://kbi9999scam.blogspot.com/2012/09/dont-fall-prey-to-insecure-gold.html

uhhh... You linked to a person who is thrashing Karat Bars International... How does that prove your point? If anything it helps solidify the others'.

[Apathy Reactor]

Here is a ton of satisfied people showing the holes in common arguments.
http://kbi9999scam.blogspot.com/2012/09/dont-fall-prey-to-insecure-gold.html

uhhh... You linked to a person who is thrashing Karat Bars International... How does that prove your point? If anything it helps solidify the others'.

It seems he was referring to the comments under the article stating how false the article is.

ah, well viewing this on my mobile it opened the mobile version of the website; I did not see the comments

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Taysbe. They do nothing to disprove him, they say "Nuh-uh" and stop at that. I did some snooping and the article was right.

[TreeSmoker]

Of course it is
The company probably paid people thousands to write those comments. And taysby is supporting a scam.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Guys, we have seen this before, Taysby will never give up on his opinion. PERIOD. From what I have seen the business looks like it is either a scam or they are just ripping people off by over-charging them. JUST MY OPINION THOUGH, I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW. Only time will tell and until then, it isn't worth arguing.

[TreeSmoker]

I just think he's being ridiculous about this whole thing. He knows we wont buy anything so why keep saying its so great? Why keep posting stuff like this? It's not helping h any unless he has some secret fetish of arguing with people. I honestly know a guy that wakes up every morning and argues with himself in the mirror before e comes to work.. It's very annoying because he'll argue with you until te cows come home. Kind of like taysby
End rant

[Wingnut]

Just want to state that this is not a scam, there are hundreds of companies (thousands?) that do the same thing. You are simply investing your money in a commodity, the same as buying a stock in company or a bond. Where it gets fuzzy is whether or not the return in the investment is substantial or not. In a normal market you would do WAY better buying stock. But in the event of an actual financial crash, gold is better because it is an age old currency that is not going away. Is it a scam, no. Is it your best investment dollar for dollar, that's arguable.

[MuggyWuggy]

Dude, if you never made this thread and just accepted the comment that we love you even if you have silly get rich quick schemes none of this would have gotten this out of hand

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

I only made it because people kept bringing it up.

No. Nobody really brings it up. I saw it posted a total of once so you flipped out.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Not really... One single thread where people used way more, much more correct logic than you did do prove their opinions, so you freaked out.