M15 (baseless speculation and spoilers)

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The1337Magician

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 16, 2014, 09:44:11 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on June 16, 2014, 05:57:54 PM
Really? What I understand is "Everything 'In Garruk's Wake' is destroyed." You know because he's an evil hunter and all.

Since a planeswalker has never left their original colors, I think we'll have a non-flip BG Garruk.

Examples;
Ajani: W to WR and WG
Sorin: B to BW
Tezzeret U to UB
Ah, but there is no precedent for this. Garruk is under the curse veil, and not himself. Not saying you are wrong, but there is considerable evidence for a black Garruk.
True.
Ajani is originally from Naya, so G and R are not out of his spectrum.
Sorin... I'm not too sure. If I recall correctly he was sacrificing Vampires for a reason or something. Anyway, he was sane.
Tezzeret and Sarkhan (whom I forgot), however, were under the control of Nicol Bolas and became a "Slave" and went "Mad" respectively. Of course, Tezzeret was from Esper and Sarkhan from Jund, so it is in their repertoire. I would say this is the closest representation.
Garruk has already been a flip card as G then GB, so it seems he maintains his root. I doubt they will print the flip card due to the token thing. He could be mono-black, but why have Liliana then? She did this to him, didn't she? She should have a slot too.
But as always, this is just highly extrapolated speculation. :-)

Munchlax

Wait! Sarkhan went from red Green to Red Black
He dropped a whole colour

Avnger345

The flavor text on In Garruk's Wake..

Beyond pain, beyond obsession and wild despair, there lies a place of twisted power only the most tormented souls can reach.

rarehuntertay

And Sarkhan was not from Jund. We were introduced to him while he was on Jund. He is originally from Tarkir.

And Sorin was white because he was looking out for the humans on Innistrad, as they were being put in danger of extinction by the other Vampires. So he created Avacyn, which then put him at odds with the other Vampire clans on Innistrad. I believe this would be pre-Mending, as I doubt any planeswalker post-Mending has the power to create a being such as Avacyn, or to create a plane such as Mirrodin (which was Karn).

The1337Magician

Quote from: rarehuntertay on June 17, 2014, 09:19:18 AM
And Sarkhan was not from Jund. We were introduced to him while he was on Jund. He is originally from Tarkir.

And Sorin was white because he was looking out for the humans on Innistrad, as they were being put in danger of extinction by the other Vampires. So he created Avacyn, which then put him at odds with the other Vampire clans on Innistrad. I believe this would be pre-Mending, as I doubt any planeswalker post-Mending has the power to create a being such as Avacyn, or to create a plane such as Mirrodin (which was Karn).
+1^
Thanks. I'm pretty fuzzy on Innistrad lore.
I totally forgot about that. Yes. Sarkhan is from Tarkir which may or may not be wedges. But I don't see him embodying any of them too well.
Wel'll see I guess. There has to be a new Sarkhan card there.
However, Sarkhan first planeswalked to Jund and worshipped the dragons of it. Hopefully the new card will be actually playable rather than flavorful. Then again, would this be when he is still on Tarkir before he went to Jund? In which case, he might be just a Legendary... I'll save that for KoT speculation though.

Munchlax

Quote from: Avnger345 on June 16, 2014, 11:58:32 PM
The flavor text on In Garruk's Wake..

Beyond pain, beyond obsession and wild despair, there lies a place of twisted power only the most tormented souls can reach.
We're getting a {Tormented Soul} reprint!

Deebiia

Quote from: particle on June 16, 2014, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on June 16, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: particle on June 16, 2014, 01:48:38 PM
{in garruks wake}?
It's a little op but it has a high CMC... Destroy all creatures and Planeswalkers you don't control.

More evidence for a Black Garruk.
yea the name either suggests garruk is already dead or will be soon.
!!!!! DON'T SAY SUCH THINGS !!!!! Garruk is... Awesome.....

Quisequise

Quote from: Deebiia on June 17, 2014, 03:01:29 PM
Quote from: particle on June 16, 2014, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on June 16, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: particle on June 16, 2014, 01:48:38 PM
{in garruks wake}?
It's a little op but it has a high CMC... Destroy all creatures and Planeswalkers you don't control.

More evidence for a Black Garruk.
yea the name either suggests garruk is already dead or will be soon.
!!!!! DON'T SAY SUCH THINGS !!!!! Garruk is... Awesome.....

I don't think it suggests either of those. I think it's pretty straight forward, the new Garruk (black) has finally lost all touch with the world and nothing is safe. In the wake of his power, all is destroyed.

gtfotis

Quote from: Quisequise on June 17, 2014, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on June 17, 2014, 03:01:29 PM
Quote from: particle on June 16, 2014, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on June 16, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: particle on June 16, 2014, 01:48:38 PM
{in garruks wake}?
It's a little op but it has a high CMC... Destroy all creatures and Planeswalkers you don't control.

More evidence for a Black Garruk.
yea the name either suggests garruk is already dead or will be soon.
!!!!! DON'T SAY SUCH THINGS !!!!! Garruk is... Awesome.....

I don't think it suggests either of those. I think it's pretty straight forward, the new Garruk (black) has finally lost all touch with the world and nothing is safe. In the wake of his power, all is destroyed.

... Except for those that you control.

LordJanova

Really not impressed with it so far. Hoping the last hundred cards contain something good.

particle

Quote from: LordJanova on June 18, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
Really not impressed with it so far. Hoping the last hundred cards contain something good.

man, {bronze sable} and {ornithopter} in the same set. artifacts are gonna be OP.


The1337Magician

Quote from: Taysby on June 18, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
Looks fun to draft, but I don't see any good stuff for constructed.

Here we see a "Magic the Gathering: Core Set" in its natural habitat. "What is its job in the ecosystem?" you may ask. Well, to bring in new players to the area, you see. Of course, it also serves as a story break from block to block and an ability to print new 5-color cycles of Planeswalkers and creatures. It also reintroduces a old mechanic, such as Convoke, to Standard. It also is quite fun to draft as a whole. This is the idea of a "Core Set" and it serves the other animals well.

Join us next time on "Leet's Safari" to hear about the extinct animal the "Un-Set"

Munchlax

Quote from: Taysby on June 18, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
Looks fun to draft, but I don't see any good stuff for constructed.
{Indulgent tormenter} looks good

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on June 18, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
Looks fun to draft, but I don't see any good stuff for constructed.
Restore life angel
New deso demon (5cmc)
Elvish mystic
Negate
Plummet
Turn to frog
Waste Not

All great for construction IMO