Obama Hates Christians/Likes Muslims

Started by Taysby, June 09, 2014, 03:31:51 PM

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FlickerYourOwnIdentity

I see this movement Taysby is talking about is interesting.  It seems that no one can have an opinion anymore.  Anyone who doesn't like certain things can be shunned or if they aren't a part of something, they are shunned.

Take for instance, if I walk up to some random place downtown in most any southern state, and yell out, "Christianity is a paradox and cannot be possible," or "There is nothing wrong with being a homosexual."  I would most likely be mugged, raped or killed.

I don't see it as (I hate this word) 'wussification' I see it as, no one is willing to provide a logical argument against your opinion.  And that means people are losing their ability to logically argue a topic.  Meaning, that anyone with an opinion that they can't counter is shunned.  People will begin to mindlessly follow the accepted view, and it will become a hive mind.  Anyone who contradicts is shunned.  Even physical violence can occur if the person with the opinion and the mind to speak it doesn't shut up.

Moral: Have an opinion, speak it, respect other people's opinions.  Have a nice day.

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Excuse me for my poor spelling, tends to happen.

Almost put speeling... ._.

Xaol

Quote from: Taysby on June 10, 2014, 12:11:55 AM
Wow, that's some crazy shiz.  Surely most local Christian church as arent like that?
I just watched some highlights on youtube.  If you'd direct me to the full thing I'd love to watch it.
It's on netflix. The image is a girl crying while praying.

Xaol

Quote from: Taysby on June 10, 2014, 11:04:51 AM
Well I don't have netflix.  My parents think "there's a lot of slutty rot on it" and they "don't want it in their house". :P
There's always piratebay I guess ;)

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Taysby on June 10, 2014, 11:04:51 AM
Well I don't have netflix.  My parents think "there's a lot of slutty rot on it" and they "don't want it in their house". :P

No more so than regular tv

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

First in response to the 'not all the south is like that' part.  No it isn't I should rephrase that.  Where I live in the south all that would happen.


Seeing as free speech, and "what you ought to say" came up.  Let me give a quote from my favorite comedian George Carlin. (Yes this quote jabs at religion, sorry it helps make the point."

"Religion is nothing but mind control. Religion is just trying to control your mind, control your thoughts, so they're gonna tell you some things you shouldn't say because they're...sins. And besides telling you things you shouldn't say, religion is gonna suggest some things that you ought to be saying; "Here's something you ought to say first thing when you wake up in the morning; here's something you ought to say just before you go to sleep at night; here's something we always say on the third Wednesday in April after the first full moon in spring at 4 o'clock when the bells ring." Religion is always suggesting things you ought to be saying."

"It's like Mind Control."  I like that analogy.  It is very true, and is basically saying, we don't like what you're saying so we have to make it taboo, or in this case, a sin.  And telling you what you can and can't say.  Another quote touching on censorship, again by George Carlin.

"People have said to me, you can't joke about rape, rape isn't funny.  .love. you I think it's hilarious!"

He is pointing out something where people have told him "you can't say that."  Well why not?  Does the general moral compass not allow it?  Whose to say what should be accepted.  I will speak my mind as I please.  Isn't that what our constitution says, freedom of speech?  If I don't like you, I will tell you I don't like you. If I don't agree with your views, I will say so.   I don't care if it is offensive, you may need to hear it.  If I am honestly sorry I will say so, but otherwise I will say what needs to be said.  It's not bad, it's just not accepted to do that.  It's taboo, and you should talk about that, or that person shouldn't hear that, or people aren't ready for that yet.  I'm getting tired of hearing that argument.

/end rant

Rass

Quote from: Taysby on June 09, 2014, 10:47:55 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on June 09, 2014, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 09, 2014, 09:37:47 PM
Which leads into the debate of the wussification of America because we "can't offend anyone"
What would you do instead?

Let people do their thing without worrying about offending someone. If the person is offended, they need to suck it up and deal with it.

Well let this happen and stop being offended.

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Taysby on June 10, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 10, 2014, 06:37:31 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 09, 2014, 10:47:55 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on June 09, 2014, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 09, 2014, 09:37:47 PM
Which leads into the debate of the wussification of America because we "can't offend anyone"
What would you do instead?

Let people do their thing without worrying about offending someone. If the person is offended, they need to suck it up and deal with it.

Well let this happen and stop being offended.

Touché, but saying something is different from doing something something.
Saying I hate blacks should be ok.  Punching them I the face should not
Why should that be all fine and dandy?

Rass

Quote from: Taysby on June 10, 2014, 08:15:14 PM

Touché, but saying something is different from doing something something.
Saying I hate blacks should be ok.  Punching them I the face should not

So taking away this holiday is like physically assaulting someone.

So if I say I will skip my birthday celebration this year it would be ok to punch you in the face?

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Listen, why should you care if they celebrate a religious holiday, if it doesn't affect you in anyway.  You can disagree with it, but in the end why is it bothering you so much in the first place.  Leave them alone, they haven't done anything to you.  Doesn't mean you have to be nice about it, doesn't mean you have to hate it.  Acknowledge it.  You can disagree with it, and use all the language you want, in the end it's your life.  Live it the way you want it.  And you aren't affecting me.  So why should I care.  That's the point, I don't.

Rass

Yes I agree talk is different then actions. But with both talk and action there are different degrees. You say fire or bomb in most places it doesn't matter. You scream fire in a movie theater or yell bomb at the airport you will get in trouble. Just like writing a racial slur on the wall and beating someone because they are a different race then you. They both are taking action but different degrees.


Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Taysby on June 11, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
Writing a racial slur is still "speaking". You are putting words up for someone to read.
God damn it. Do you actually believe that? Look up Speaking in the dictionary.

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Taysby on June 11, 2014, 01:48:59 PM
*free speech
Do I have to spell out everything exactly the way it is?  I thought people were intelligent enough to know what I meant.
Was that an insult? Because gurl I can out sass you any day of the week.

TreeSmoker

Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 11, 2014, 08:26:55 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 11, 2014, 01:48:59 PM
*free speech
Do I have to spell out everything exactly the way it is?  I thought people were intelligent enough to know what I meant.
Was that an insult? Because gurl I can out sass you any day of the week.
lolol
+1 sir/ma'am
Funniest comment I've read so far
Lol

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 11, 2014, 08:43:15 PM
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 11, 2014, 08:26:55 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 11, 2014, 01:48:59 PM
*free speech
Do I have to spell out everything exactly the way it is?  I thought people were intelligent enough to know what I meant.
Was that an insult? Because gurl I can out sass you any day of the week.
lolol
+1 sir/ma'am
Funniest comment I've read so far
Lol
+1 for the compliment :3