Obama Hates Christians/Likes Muslims

[Xaol]

Just because the majority of people in a certain nation are a certain religion does not automatically make the county "that religion."

I don't understand how making a prayer day not a national thing and the president's choice to pray with a certain group is throwing Christians under the rug...

Nd it's odd how we went from me posting something interesting without me saying I support it, to "how can you believe that biased piece of crap?"
I was just posting some interesting facts (that last paragraph is opinion). Why the mudslinging and karma hitting for an interesting email?

About this: maybe people weren't the nicest about this, but in your later posts you seemed to start defending it. It seems to me that means you agree with it.

This is why I wrote my post. I was not sure if Taysby supported it at first- though I thought he might as he has tended to be the most conservative-minded person on this forum. When he started defending some of it was when I wrote up that post.

Taysby- maybe some people hassle you for sources, but I do believe I've never asked you for sources before. You wonder why you're asked so much, it's probably because most people here don't agree with a lot of what you post and want to see some evidence
And also, technically, every source is biased. That's a redundant argument and you could say the same of any source I post, so when you post your sources, if (when) I criticise them, and I hope others follow suit, I will not discuss their biased nature as a limitation as that's already a given of any work, liberal, conservative, or otherwise.

[Distriimuir]

Just because the majority of people in a certain nation are a certain religion does not automatically make the county "that religion."

I don't understand how making a prayer day not a national thing and the president's choice to pray with a certain group is throwing Christians under the rug...

Nd it's odd how we went from me posting something interesting without me saying I support it, to "how can you believe that biased piece of crap?"
I was just posting some interesting facts (that last paragraph is opinion). Why the mudslinging and karma hitting for an interesting email?

About this: maybe people weren't the nicest about this, but in your later posts you seemed to start defending it. It seems to me that means you agree with it.

This is why I wrote my post. I was not sure if Taysby supported it at first- though I thought he might as he has tended to be the most conservative-minded person on this forum. When he started defending some of it was when I wrote up that post.

Taysby- maybe some people hassle you for sources, but I do believe I've never asked you for sources before. You wonder why you're asked so much, it's probably because most people here don't agree with a lot of what you post and want to see some evidence
And also, technically, every source is biased. That's a redundant argument and you could say the same of any source I post, so when you post your sources, if (when) I criticise them, and I hope others follow suit, I will not discuss their biased nature as a limitation as that's already a given of any work, liberal, conservative, or otherwise.

I apologize if you thought I was going after you for sources.  I appreciate that you don't do that to me.  . And that you have sence.  Some sources just report their data without any interpretation (like mayo) but the sites that come to conclusions are all at least a little biased.

And see above post.  I wasn't defending the article, I was defending the equality of the Christians.

You really think Christians are getting the shaft end? Try being a open pagan or atheist in this country. That's discrimination. Or better yet you want to see real Christians getting hassled? Look at what they do to them in Israel and Syria.

[Distriimuir]

Actually they seem ver relevant seein as this is the topic being discussed. Are you not complaining about Obama discriminating against Christians ? There is much more than just that going on in this topic.

[Spencer Addington]

We were started as a Christian nation, then Obama came and started chipping away at Christians rights while promoting "equality" for the Muslims.

Umm, First Amendment?

Also, what's the problem with equal rights or with what Obama chooses to do? (Well, I guess you could have a problem with what he chooses, but to me this is something that is his choice alone. Some things may not be, but this is not one of them.)

First amendment.  Gov will not inhibit the practice of religions.  America is still a Christian nation.

I have a problem when he throws the Christians under the rug while saying screw you Christians , and taking the Muslims under his arm and saying anything against them is inequality.  That isn't fair to the Christians.

You're delusional if you think America is a Cristian nation lol

[Xaol]

Just because the majority of people in a certain nation are a certain religion does not automatically make the county "that religion."

I don't understand how making a prayer day not a national thing and the president's choice to pray with a certain group is throwing Christians under the rug...

Nd it's odd how we went from me posting something interesting without me saying I support it, to "how can you believe that biased piece of crap?"
I was just posting some interesting facts (that last paragraph is opinion). Why the mudslinging and karma hitting for an interesting email?

About this: maybe people weren't the nicest about this, but in your later posts you seemed to start defending it. It seems to me that means you agree with it.

This is why I wrote my post. I was not sure if Taysby supported it at first- though I thought he might as he has tended to be the most conservative-minded person on this forum. When he started defending some of it was when I wrote up that post.

Taysby- maybe some people hassle you for sources, but I do believe I've never asked you for sources before. You wonder why you're asked so much, it's probably because most people here don't agree with a lot of what you post and want to see some evidence
And also, technically, every source is biased. That's a redundant argument and you could say the same of any source I post, so when you post your sources, if (when) I criticise them, and I hope others follow suit, I will not discuss their biased nature as a limitation as that's already a given of any work, liberal, conservative, or otherwise.

I apologize if you thought I was going after you for sources.  I appreciate that you don't do that to me.  . And that you have sence.  Some sources just report their data without any interpretation (like mayo) but the sites that come to conclusions are all at least a little biased.

And see above post.  I wasn't defending the article, I was defending the equality of the Christians.

Thank you.

But while you defend the equality of Christians, again I raise you my past point: the Christians aren't discriminated against in this country like the Muslims are. Thus a Muslim's freedom of religion is inherently less equal than that of a Christian, no? By Obama having a Muslim prayer here in DC, he's not putting down Christians or anything, he's simply trying to bring the Muslim people to an equal footing with the Christians, are there is a sizeable Muslim population here in the states.

It might be a little hard to understand, so let me explain it a different way. Don't look at it as a scale, where raising one side (in this case, the Muslims) lowers another side (the Christians, you posit) to balance out. See it instead as two pillars of blocks, one taller than the other (that'd be the Christians). Obama, through things like the prayer here in DC, is just trying to add to the Muslim "pillar" and have them be equal to all other religions here in the states.
Does that make sense?

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

I'd like to tip my hat to Xaol for those metaphors. 👍

[Ekann1]

Same, wish I could +1 more than once/day

[Spencer Addington]

Church-------------State
                  ^separation

This needs to happen..

[Rass]

Just because the majority of people in a certain nation are a certain religion does not automatically make the county "that religion."

I don't understand how making a prayer day not a national thing and the president's choice to pray with a certain group is throwing Christians under the rug...

Nd it's odd how we went from me posting something interesting without me saying I support it, to "how can you believe that biased piece of crap?"
I was just posting some interesting facts (that last paragraph is opinion). Why the mudslinging and karma hitting for an interesting email?

About this: maybe people weren't the nicest about this, but in your later posts you seemed to start defending it. It seems to me that means you agree with it.

This is why I wrote my post. I was not sure if Taysby supported it at first- though I thought he might as he has tended to be the most conservative-minded person on this forum. When he started defending some of it was when I wrote up that post.

Taysby- maybe some people hassle you for sources, but I do believe I've never asked you for sources before. You wonder why you're asked so much, it's probably because most people here don't agree with a lot of what you post and want to see some evidence
And also, technically, every source is biased. That's a redundant argument and you could say the same of any source I post, so when you post your sources, if (when) I criticise them, and I hope others follow suit, I will not discuss their biased nature as a limitation as that's already a given of any work, liberal, conservative, or otherwise.

I apologize if you thought I was going after you for sources.  I appreciate that you don't do that to me.  . And that you have sence.  Some sources just report their data without any interpretation (like mayo) but the sites that come to conclusions are all at least a little biased.

And see above post.  I wasn't defending the article, I was defending the equality of the Christians.

Thank you.

But while you defend the equality of Christians, again I raise you my past point: the Christians aren't discriminated against in this country like the Muslims are. Thus a Muslim's freedom of religion is inherently less equal than that of a Christian, no? By Obama having a Muslim prayer here in DC, he's not putting down Christians or anything, he's simply trying to bring the Muslim people to an equal footing with the Christians, are there is a sizeable Muslim population here in the states.

It might be a little hard to understand, so let me explain it a different way. Don't look at it as a scale, where raising one side (in this case, the Muslims) lowers another side (the Christians, you posit) to balance out. See it instead as two pillars of blocks, one taller than the other (that'd be the Christians). Obama, through things like the prayer here in DC, is just trying to add to the Muslim "pillar" and have them be equal to all other religions here in the states.
Does that make sense?

You seem to be forgetting that he TOOK AWAY their prayer day (to "not offend anyone") while giving the Muslims a prayer day.  He's boosting the Muslim pillar while taking an axe to the Christian pillar.

He's giving them special treatment which isn't needed.  We just need to treat everyone the same without special treatment.

Ok he took away one of many Christian days (lets not forget Christmas , Good Friday .........)  and put one Muslim day. So maybe he should add more to try and equil it out. 

[Rass]

The thing you have to understand is things evolve. Yes the United States was most recognizes religion was Christianity. Now there are several others with a large population. So things have to change. Either we recognize all the major religions and try to give them all their time. It may seem like they are taking away from one to give to another, but if they didn't they  all it would be is religious holidays.

You can look at walmart. Are they trying to get rid of Christmas? During that time they tell people to say happy holidays instead of merry Christmas so they do not offend people. Also look at all the public schools and building that have holiday party's instead of Christmas party's in December.

Things change.

[rarehuntertay]

Things change, yet there is still no official national language for the USA

[Spencer Addington]

Which leads into the debate of the wussification of America because we "can't offend anyone"

It's consideration, not wussification.

[Ekann1]

Which leads into the debate of the wussification of America because we "can't offend anyone"

What would you do instead?

[5/9 Turtle]

Church-------------State
                  ^separation

This needs to happen..

Agreed ^^^^^^

[5/9 Turtle]

The thing you have to understand is things evolve. Yes the United States was most recognizes religion was Christianity. Now there are several others with a large population. So things have to change. Either we recognize all the major religions and try to give them all their time. It may seem like they are taking away from one to give to another, but if they didn't they  all it would be is religious holidays.

You can look at walmart. Are they trying to get rid of Christmas? During that time they tell people to say happy holidays instead of merry Christmas so they do not offend people. Also look at all the public schools and building that have holiday party's instead of Christmas party's in December.

Things change.

I agree with this. The US in its Constitution building days pretty much said that they wouldn't be able to think of every possible law at that exact moment. So they created the 10th Amendment and the Necessary and Proper (Elastic) Clause.