Obama Hates Christians/Likes Muslims

[Taysby]

Interesting email i got.

From Christian friends.....now to you...this is a sad chapter in our Nation's history...feel free to check SNOPES link verifying info....

In 1892 The Supreme Court determined and declared the United States was indeed a Christian Nation
In 1952 President Truman established one day a year as a "National Day of Prayer."
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In 1988 President Reagan designated the First Thursday in May of each year as the National Day of Prayer.
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In June 2007 (then) Presidential Candidate Barack Obama declared that the USA "Was no longer a Christian nation."
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This year President Obama canceled the 21st annual National Day of Prayer ceremony at the White House under the ruse Of "not wanting to offend anyone"
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BUT... on September 25, 2009 from 4 AM until 7 PM, a National Day of Prayer FOR THE MUSLIM RELIGION was Held on Capitol Hill, Beside the White House. There were over 50,000 Muslims in D.C. that day. HE PRAYS WITH THE MUSLIMS! I guess it Doesn't matter if "Christians" Are offended by this event - We obviously Don 't count as "anyone" Anymore. The direction this country is headed should strike fear in the heart of every Christian, especially knowing that the Muslim religion believes that if Christians cannot be converted, they should be annihilated. This is not a Rumor Go to the website To confirm this info:

http://www.snopes.com/.politics./religion/capitolislam.asp

[MuggyWuggy]

Seriously man you're like the spammer of the forums, Mlerner may necro, but you straight up are the pyramid scheme/chain letter king

[MuggyWuggy]

WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

[Distriimuir]

The funny thing s you can literally see him growing up. Went from talking magic, to all the sudden a very opinionated political activist. It's kinda funny the stuff he defends without looking for unbiased info lol.

[rarehuntertay]

Hanging chads...

[Ekann1]

I'd like to point out that the first word you see on that link besides the name of the site is "rumor"....

[Distriimuir]

Pretty soon we'll see him post articles from abovetopsecret as facts lol.

[Ekann1]

We were started as a Christian nation, then Obama came and started chipping away at Christians rights while promoting "equality" for the Muslims.

Umm, First Amendment?

Also, what's the problem with equal rights or with what Obama chooses to do? (Well, I guess you could have a problem with what he chooses, but to me this is something that is his choice alone. Some things may not be, but this is not one of them.)

[Distriimuir]

We were a nation created from freedom of religious expression, not Christian. We have many here, doesn't make us a Christian nation. I see he gave equal days for other religions, which is a very good thing to do in a nation of so many different thoughts.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

No, it's RELIGIOISLY FREE. Does the government force you to be Christian? No.

[Xaol]

Interesting email i got.

In 1892 The Supreme Court determined and declared the United States was indeed a Christian Nation

Nope. Nope nope nope. Do you actually agree with this stuff, Taysby?
From the first amendment, which you clearly are not aware of if you do believe the above statement:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Why does Obama hold a prayer for Muslims? Well, let's see here- Muslims have suffered tons of discrimination against them since the 9/11 attacks. Christians have not. Sure you can cite minor instances of anti-Christian antagonisms in the US but I would love to hear any justification for how that could be comparable in any way to the discrimination many muslims face currently.

Obama came and started chipping away at Christians rights while promoting "equality" for the Muslims.

Really? Can I see a some evidence to back that up? Again I encourage you to read the above. It is not that he "chips away at Christian rights" (and again you need to give some factual support of this) it is that he is trying to show that we need to be as equally accepting of Muslim culture as we are of Christian culture, plain and .loving. simple. You wonder why there were almost 50,000 Muslims there? They were overjoyed to see the leader of their nation showing his tolerance of a frequently misunderstood culture.

Now, your little misguided email also says:

In 1892 The Supreme Court determined and declared the United States was indeed a Christian Nation

Well I did some research. This faulty and frankly ridiculous claim is based off of something a Supreme Court Judge said in the case Holy Trinity Church v United States. Well, he realised that some misguided people would take his wording the wrong way and say EXACTLY what the above quote says. He in fact wrote an entire BOOK where he clarifies what he said. Here's an excerpt:
"But in what sense can [the United States] be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or the people are compelled in any manner to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that 'congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.' Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or in name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within its borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. [...]

Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions."



So no, not a Christian nation.

[Distriimuir]

Interesting email i got.

In 1892 The Supreme Court determined and declared the United States was indeed a Christian Nation

Nope. Nope nope nope. Do you actually agree with this stuff, Taysby?
From the first amendment, which you clearly are not aware of if you do believe the above statement:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Why does Obama hold a prayer for Muslims? Well, let's see here- Muslims have suffered tons of discrimination against them since the 9/11 attacks. Christians have not. Sure you can cite minor instances of anti-Christian antagonisms in the US but I would love to hear any justification for how that could be comparable in any way to the discrimination many muslims face currently.

Obama came and started chipping away at Christians rights while promoting "equality" for the Muslims.

Really? Can I see a some evidence to back that up? Again I encourage you to read the above. It is not that he "chips away at Christian rights" (and again you need to give some factual support of this) it is that he is trying to show that we need to be as equally accepting of Muslim culture as we are of Christian culture, plain and .loving. simple. You wonder why there were almost 50,000 Muslims there? They were overjoyed to see the leader of their nation showing his tolerance of a frequently misunderstood culture.

Now, your little misguided email also says:

In 1892 The Supreme Court determined and declared the United States was indeed a Christian Nation

Well I did some research. This faulty and frankly ridiculous claim is based off of something a Supreme Court Judge said in the case Holy Trinity Church v United States. Well, he realised that some misguided people would take his wording the wrong way and say EXACTLY what the above quote says. He in fact wrote an entire BOOK where he clarifies what he said. Here's an excerpt:
"But in what sense can [the United States] be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or the people are compelled in any manner to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that 'congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.' Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or in name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within its borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. [...]

Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions."



So no, not a Christian nation.

Thank you for goin out of your way to say what I was trying. I'd plus you if I could.

[Ekann1]

There have been tons of anti-Christian acts, for example, Obama ditching their prayer day because it might "offend someone". I'm not for discrimination, but special treatment because they were discriminated against is a no go.

Is he not allowing them to pray? Not at all. He's just not making it a national holiday (or whatever the exact term is), since there IS a "separation between church and state." The US is NOT a Christian nation. Xaol is correct, in my opinion.

[Ekann1]

Just because the majority of people in a certain nation are a certain religion does not automatically make the county "that religion."

I don't understand how making a prayer day not a national thing and the president's choice to pray with a certain group is throwing Christians under the rug...

Nd it's odd how we went from me posting something interesting without me saying I support it, to "how can you believe that biased piece of crap?"
I was just posting some interesting facts (that last paragraph is opinion). Why the mudslinging and karma hitting for an interesting email?

About this: maybe people weren't the nicest about this, but in your later posts you seemed to start defending it. It seems to me that means you agree with it.

[5/9 Turtle]

Interesting email i got.

In 1892 The Supreme Court determined and declared the United States was indeed a Christian Nation

Nope. Nope nope nope. Do you actually agree with this stuff, Taysby?
From the first amendment, which you clearly are not aware of if you do believe the above statement:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Why does Obama hold a prayer for Muslims? Well, let's see here- Muslims have suffered tons of discrimination against them since the 9/11 attacks. Christians have not. Sure you can cite minor instances of anti-Christian antagonisms in the US but I would love to hear any justification for how that could be comparable in any way to the discrimination many muslims face currently.

Obama came and started chipping away at Christians rights while promoting "equality" for the Muslims.

Really? Can I see a some evidence to back that up? Again I encourage you to read the above. It is not that he "chips away at Christian rights" (and again you need to give some factual support of this) it is that he is trying to show that we need to be as equally accepting of Muslim culture as we are of Christian culture, plain and .loving. simple. You wonder why there were almost 50,000 Muslims there? They were overjoyed to see the leader of their nation showing his tolerance of a frequently misunderstood culture.

Now, your little misguided email also says:

In 1892 The Supreme Court determined and declared the United States was indeed a Christian Nation

Well I did some research. This faulty and frankly ridiculous claim is based off of something a Supreme Court Judge said in the case Holy Trinity Church v United States. Well, he realised that some misguided people would take his wording the wrong way and say EXACTLY what the above quote says. He in fact wrote an entire BOOK where he clarifies what he said. Here's an excerpt:
"But in what sense can [the United States] be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or the people are compelled in any manner to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that 'congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.' Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or in name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within its borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. [...]

Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions."



So no, not a Christian nation.

Yes, the first amendment says the government will not make a religion or prevent someone from practicing a religion.  By us being a Christian nation, most of the religious people are Christian, therefore, for example, when there are prayers and such to start certain meetings, we would give a Christian prayer, because the majority of us are Christian.

There have been tons of anti-Christian acts, for example, Obama ditching their prayer day because it might "offend someone". I'm not for discrimination, but special treatment because they were discriminated against is a no go.

That except doesn't say it isn't a Christian nation

I can't remember what law or clause it is but, there is such a thing as separation of church and state which prevents Obama or any officeholder from tying a specific religion to the US.